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Taq
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Message 1 of 53 (566250)
06-23-2010 5:32 PM


Since we (Yanks) are accused of modifying other sports and calling them our own (e.g. american football, baseball) I say that we do the same with soccer. Here are three rule changes that would make the sport more palletable to the average Yank:
1. Change offsides to an offside line like it is in ice hockey. No offensive player can enter the offensive zone until the ball has crossed the line. After that, offensive players can be anywhere within the offensive zone regardless of where the ball or defensive players are.
2. Stealing from hockey once again, if someone is actively playing the ball you can hit them with your body. No elbows or blows with the feet, but a good body check is legal.
3. No throw in. Free kicks from the side line.
Anyone else?

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Message 9 of 53 (566351)
06-24-2010 11:09 AM
Reply to: Message 4 by Dr Adequate
06-23-2010 10:52 PM


No. [Body checks] would deprive the game of much of the individual skill that makes it so enjoyable to watch. If you did that then how could someone be a genius with the ball at his feet? He could just be body-checked, and that would be the end of it.
If I wanted to watch two prissy guys dance around with each other I would go to the ballet.
Why [have free kick instead of throw in]? I mean, I can't see an argument against that, but how would it improve the game?
A free kick puts the ball into a scoring position faster than a throw in. Wouldn't you agree that a corner kick is more entertaining than a throw in?

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Message 10 of 53 (566354)
06-24-2010 11:16 AM
Reply to: Message 6 by Dr Jack
06-24-2010 6:39 AM


I think you've misunderstood; we're trying to Americanize the game, not make it better...
See? Someone understands what I am saying.
Have teams of about 33 with the ability to swap people on and off at will, and time outs to do so. Entirely swap the team over between attach and defence.
That's how recreational leagues work in my part of the world. Unlimited substitutions during a stoppage in play.
Replace yellow/red cards with some kind of sin bin arrangement.
Like that as well. Works well in rugby.
Get rid of the goalie; he just stop points being score anyway.
Actually, I would go in the opposite direction if scoring went up. Make the goal smaller. This would make for better goalie play and more spectacular saves. The perfect "American" final score would be about 3 to 4 goals a side on average.

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Message 15 of 53 (566401)
06-24-2010 2:51 PM
Reply to: Message 14 by Coyote
06-24-2010 1:16 PM


Re: Americanize soccer?
Helmets and shoulder pads should be a good start.
And that "no hands" nonsense has got to go!
We already Americanized rugby. Keep the no hands policy in.

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Message 18 of 53 (567028)
06-29-2010 10:56 AM
Reply to: Message 16 by riVeRraT
06-28-2010 11:40 PM


One thing they could do is shove all the horns down the people throats who blow them. So annoying.
Unfortunately, annoying noise makers are not limited to South Africa. I like to go watch the local minor league hockey team once in a while and I always seem to sit right in front of the guy with the cow bell. Penalty kills suck. And don't even get me started on people jingling their keys.
I find the horns annoying as well, but its not my place to tell the host nation how to be a spectator. I'm sure that future decisions on hosting nations will look at local customs more closely.

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Message 41 of 53 (567753)
07-02-2010 1:03 PM
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07-02-2010 10:22 AM


Re: Two-Pointers!
Maybe the hockey-style offsides isn't such a bad idea, after all.
I still like that one too. In this case the ball has to be the first thing across the line of demarcation. This would prevent offensive players from standing next to the goal.

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Message 42 of 53 (567754)
07-02-2010 1:08 PM
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06-30-2010 11:50 AM


[Checking] would just make soccer stupid.
I will concede on this one. Fouls are not called often enough to break the flow of the game. This is one of the things I hate about basketball, the flow of the game is interrupted way too much.
Why restrict it to stoppages? Why not just have substitutions on the fly?
Throwing a bone to tradition, I guess. Also, on-the-fly substutitions could be abused for field position.

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