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Hypocrisy at funerals

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Huntard
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08-20-2010 1:47 PM 		Reply to: Message 9 by jar
08-20-2010 1:39 PM

jar writes:
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But still, where is the hypocrisy?
Would not the hypocrisy stem from the fact that all your life you are told to behave, else you will go to hell, and yet, whether you behaved or not, once you're dead, they automatically assume you went to heaven.
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Say you're a baby raping cannibal, do these people really believe that even people like that go to heaven?
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08-20-2010 2:04 PM 		Reply to: Message 12 by jar
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jar writes:
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The point is, if they believe that the person is in heaven or even hope that the person was forgiven ad is in heaven, where is the hypocrisy?
Then the hypocrisy would take place when they tell you you should behave to go to heaven. What they should actually tell you is that it doesn't matter how you behave, you'll get to heaven anyway. Which is ironic, seeing as they always tell atheists that they're atheists because they don't want to be accountable to god and act however they want to. Well, if it doesn't matter how you behave, you're not accountable either, are you, and thus, you can behave however you want, right?
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08-20-2010 2:16 PM 		Reply to: Message 17 by jar
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jar writes:
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Again, even if that were true, it is irrelevant to this topic. The issue is "Hypocrisy at funerals".
Fair enough. Christians aren't hypocritical at funerals, they're hypocritical when they tell you you should behave or you can't go to heaven.
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08-20-2010 3:28 PM 		Reply to: Message 31 by Straggler
08-20-2010 3:08 PM

Re: What Would You Have Me Do?
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What would you have me do not to be hypocritical?
Tell the truth? I know I do. It's how you sell it mate.
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When they need comfort, don't tell them they're in a better place, tell them they feel no more pain and suffering, that they're "at peace" now.
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They are, just not in the way the one getting the answers think you mean it.
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Like I said, it's all how you sell it.
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Huntard
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08-20-2010 3:33 PM 		Reply to: Message 44 by hooah212002
08-20-2010 3:29 PM

Re: What Would You Have Me Do?
You could've said: "His days of suffering are over now. There are no more bad things for in store for him."
Or something like that. No reason to be a hypocrite when giving comfort.
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08-20-2010 3:38 PM 		Reply to: Message 47 by Straggler
08-20-2010 3:35 PM

Re: What Would You Have Me Do?
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We obviously need an atheist marketing machine to advise on such matters.
Indeed. That advice'll cost you 50 Euros, thank you very much.
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