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Author Topic:   Bush's Shia Islamic War Vs Obama's Sunni War
anglagard
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Message 17 of 111 (599583)
01-09-2011 12:16 AM
Reply to: Message 13 by jar
01-08-2011 10:40 PM


Re: On Shi'a and Sunni
jar writes:
Buz, Iraq under Saddam Hussein was secular, the only Islamic middle eastern nation that was NOT run under Sharia Law.
I beg to differ. My understanding is that both Iraq and Syria were under control of the secular Baath Party movement at the time.
From History of Syria - Wikipedia
quote:
The authoritarian regime was not without its critics, though most were quickly murdered. A serious challenge arose in the late 1970s, however, from fundamentalist Sunni Muslims, who reject the basic values of the secular Baath program and object to rule by the Alawis, whom they consider heretical.
Of course that kinda bones Buz' argument, no surprise.

The idea of the sacred is quite simply one of the most conservative notions in any culture, because it seeks to turn other ideas - uncertainty, progress, change - into crimes.
Salman Rushdie
This rudderless world is not shaped by vague metaphysical forces. It is not God who kills the children. Not fate that butchers them or destiny that feeds them to the dogs. It’s us. Only us. - the character Rorschach in Watchmen

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anglagard
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Message 21 of 111 (599591)
01-09-2011 12:45 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Buzsaw
01-08-2011 7:09 PM


Final Solution
Buzsaw writes:
If these wars amount to Bush's Shea Muslim War in Iraq vs Obama's Sunni war in Afghanistan, what ever are US forces doing, occupying and building up the armies of either of these religious theocratic despotic nations where Islam, by law is the predominating religion? Other religions need apply as infidels, at the risk of restrictions, persecution and/or death.
So you hate Obama, you hate all Muslims, in fact you pretty much hate everyone who is not you, So what is your final solution?
Remember, if all your enemies must be exterminated, Auschwitz could only exterminate 4 million Jews, gypsies, gays, disabled, and Russians in the four or so year's time of its existence.
There are over 1.5 billion Muslims.
Even if what you assume is right, what is one to do?
And if you say it is my problem because you are too old, perhaps you should read Goldhagen's Hitler's Willing Executioners.
If your solution is something other than extermination, as you accuse others of doing, I'm all ears.
Do you propose assassination, or praise those who do? Like in Arizona?
Buz, please reread the NT instead of assuming whatever preacher says is there is gospel. And stop being thrilled at the prospect of everyone dying a horrible death like in the misinterpretation of Revelations as some kind of catharsis.
Sick.
Edited by anglagard, : added a useful 'as' (I'm gonna get it, but some crap just pisses me off)

The idea of the sacred is quite simply one of the most conservative notions in any culture, because it seeks to turn other ideas - uncertainty, progress, change - into crimes.
Salman Rushdie
This rudderless world is not shaped by vague metaphysical forces. It is not God who kills the children. Not fate that butchers them or destiny that feeds them to the dogs. It’s us. Only us. - the character Rorschach in Watchmen

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anglagard
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From: Socorro, New Mexico USA
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Message 28 of 111 (599621)
01-09-2011 11:39 AM
Reply to: Message 27 by Coragyps
01-09-2011 11:23 AM


Re: Buz, you are making no sense.
Coragyps writes:
Where Buz and 95% of his teabagger kith and kin appear to this observer to regard Mr. Obama as a Negro.
That pretty much sums it up IMO, being an uppity black is an unforgivable sin according to fundies.
The whole premise of this thread is so astonishingly full of shit that I think I will hold my nose and boil my keyboard.
Don't blame the keyboard, blame the sinner.

The idea of the sacred is quite simply one of the most conservative notions in any culture, because it seeks to turn other ideas - uncertainty, progress, change - into crimes.
Salman Rushdie
This rudderless world is not shaped by vague metaphysical forces. It is not God who kills the children. Not fate that butchers them or destiny that feeds them to the dogs. It’s us. Only us. - the character Rorschach in Watchmen

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anglagard
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Message 33 of 111 (599642)
01-09-2011 3:35 PM
Reply to: Message 32 by ringo
01-09-2011 1:57 PM


Re: Buz, you are making no sense.
Ringo writes:
Do you think we missed getting a seat on the UN Security Council because we're not considered Catholic any more?
The UN Security Council should consist of Canada, New Zeland, Botswana, Thailand, Chile, and Mali.
Perhaps one could let in Switzerland if they would just chill out.
Instead we have the US, UK, France, Russia, and China.
The usual suspects.
I suppose Obama is part English, French, Russian and Chinese according to some, but definitely not American.
I am part English, French, Italian, Scot, Irish, Dutch, German, Spanish and Indian, but according to some definitely not American despite the fact my ancestors fought for the US since Saratoga.
What racist crock!
Edited by anglagard, : Forgot German, no insult intended.

The idea of the sacred is quite simply one of the most conservative notions in any culture, because it seeks to turn other ideas - uncertainty, progress, change - into crimes.
Salman Rushdie
This rudderless world is not shaped by vague metaphysical forces. It is not God who kills the children. Not fate that butchers them or destiny that feeds them to the dogs. It’s us. Only us. - the character Rorschach in Watchmen

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