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wj
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Message 39 of 50 (15140)
08-10-2002 11:11 AM
Reply to: Message 38 by mark24
08-09-2002 1:55 PM


Let me get some clarification on Peter Borger's frequent self-aggrandizing declarations in various threads about the demise of NDT. Does his whole argument boil down to
unequal frequency of mutations at all loci = non-random mutation = directed mutation by mechanism unknown = genomes designed to mutate in (enhancing) response to external evnironmental factors = evidence for intelligent design by designer unknown (don't say god) = demise of NDT ?

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wj
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Message 42 of 50 (15153)
08-10-2002 12:44 PM
Reply to: Message 41 by William E. Harris
08-10-2002 12:19 PM


quote:
Originally posted by William E. Harris:
Only snp mutations evolve by natural selection (which is also part of ID to be influenced by enviornmental factors). Additional new gene complexes come from ID. The chance of new gene complexes to be produced by natural selection is essentially zero.
William

What sort of delusion is this? What precludes multiple nucleotide insertions and deletions, gene duplication, chromosomal inversions and polyploidy from being sources of variation which can be might be acted on by natural selection? Where is the evidence for ID except in the personal incredulity of its believers? The problem for IDers is that they have no idea where to draw the line between natural processes of natural processes of mutation, natural selection, genetic drift and evolution and ID because they only invoke ID at the point where they can't believe the naturalistic explanation. But because this is a personal view and varies with such factors as knowledge of the topic, each IDer draws the line at a different point. Nothing like having a personal opinion masquerading as science!

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