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Kairyu
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Message 16 of 87 (656916)
03-23-2012 5:07 AM
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03-22-2012 11:12 PM


That reminds me of some documentary I saw as a child. People mending and throwing a ball over, from what I suppose is ki. Some masters supposedly knocked people out by using the energy. Always stayed in the ''strange stories I can never track down because I was a kid back then'' departement from me, although in Asia and India, more weird stuff is practiced in sects, although that is off-topic here.

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Message 17 of 87 (656921)
03-23-2012 6:15 AM
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03-23-2012 5:07 AM


Dumb TV
I used to watch Mind, Body & Kick Ass Moves for the lols.
The presenter went around the world to watch these martial art tricks (with a non-critical eye).

I particularly liked the kung fu master that could pull his testicles into his body.
He stood there and went *Hrmph!* "Now feel my crotch!"
Then the presenter felt his crotch and said "Wow! They are not there!"
Then the master went *Hrmph!* "Now they are back!"

I can do this trick too:
"I have a dragon under my left hand!"
*Hrmph!* "Now it is gone! Look!" *turns over left hand*
The ki is strong in this one!

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Taq
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Message 18 of 87 (656940)
03-23-2012 11:50 AM
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03-22-2012 5:50 PM


Re: Trepidation does not occur for nothing but occasionally
The point being defined is not how nerve impulses are caused. Nerve impulse is just a consequence of the presence of life.
In other words, life energy is more than the natural property of being alive.

You still have not described what these vibrations are. Could you do that please? I would like to go through your opening post bit by bit so that it is all clear.

Would you like a clue on how the life energy is detected? Trepidation does not occur for nothing.
Trepidation [ evidence of that range of life energy and constant source of vibration ] occurs occasionally.

You still have not told us what these vibrations are. I think we need to start there.


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Message 19 of 87 (656969)
03-23-2012 6:00 PM
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03-23-2012 11:50 AM


Re: Trepidation does not occur for nothing but occasionally
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Taq writes:

.. what these vibrations are ...

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The completeness of specificity might take time. A complete Graph might be ready soon for this week.

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Brief Summarized Signature
Real life vs too pessimistic archeological-surrealism

As certain as my pet kangoroo rat has always an ace in the sleeve, [ whether 'Die Hard', the kangoroo rat, bluffs or not ], it's only with a timeline that equates to 4,750 years without multiplying, per every 5,000 years interval, that it would be possible for Humanity to have taken 49,000 years to reach 1 million people. If the number of children would always be the same from the beginning to the end of every 4,750 years interval within the rows of 5,000 years from 55,000 years ago then there's still the option of stop thinking by the head of an archeo-surrealist, which equates to stop drifting on numbers as if man is a beast and as if everything that happened in life was a disgrace. – That kind of chronological basis surpasses far beyond Hardy Har Har, a depressed, gloomy pessimistic hyena, always saying, 'Oh dear, oh my, I just know it's all going to go wrong'.


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celestialGyoud
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Message 20 of 87 (657148)
03-26-2012 11:08 AM
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03-23-2012 11:50 AM


Life energy and TREPIDATION GRAPH - Definitions Reloaded
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Hi Taq, the complete info has been gathered all in one place. The opening post has been updated with the terms quivering and trepidation rather than vibration since the original text does not say that the life energy comes from the nerves nor from the nervous system. The life energy flows through the nervous system.

quote:

That there is a constant and permanent life energy in inertial state in the Human body is evident since the same physical trepidation occurs by two opposite reasons, causality and free choice, which demonstrates that the inertial state of that life force is only the basic layer for what the real range of life energy is. On that moment that the quivering occurs whether by choice [ desire ] or the most remote causes then the usual basic layer is physically unacceptable: One's nervous system does not go with that basic layer but goes with the completeness of the highest range of life energy.

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Life Energy is the life force which, in nervous system, increases the rate of trepidations.

Every trepidation is a quivering and is the physical expression of life energy flowing in nervous system. The sequence of a quivering equates to a sequence of time that might be alternated from a continuous sequence to an immediate and simultaneous sequence.

Permanence time [ or permanence of life ] is the expected time that the life energy will stay in the Human body. Trepidation or quivering might occur for different reasons: rage, famine, desire and other things. The permanence time that is expected for the life energy to stay in the Human body can be extended endlessly when the reason why a sequence of trembling will occur is a trepidation caused by choice and desire.

The appropriate means by which life energy can be extended is the quivering and trepidation caused by choice which occurs by pressing the palms of both hands together, pressed to each other with all one's strength. And the sequence of that quivering is 'time of impact by the shortening between the right and left side of one's brain, which is access to the simultaneity, a property inherent to life energy.

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There are two permanent sequences of time through which a quivering flows and increases by the life force.
See it; Find the access from the end to the beginning:

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______________________________ Life energy and TREPIDATION GRAPH __________________________
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|__________________________________ Relativity of simultaneity _______________________________|
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| A continuous sequence of a second after another is the same for inertial observers only.
| The permanent beginning of life energy can be re-initiated/extended endlessly when one's
| life energy won't be in inertial state during the experiment that requires trepidation.
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|___________________________ Initial Time [ immediate and simultaneous sequence ] _______________|
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| Time of impact for simultaneity of life energy in the form of glittering white light.
| Time of impact for mediation between a trepidation and the shortening of that same light.
| Time of impact for termination of continuous sequence. [ Everything that has a beginning has an end ]
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|_______________ Permanent end _______________|____________ Permanent beginning ____________|
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|__________ Time of impact for termination _________|__________ Time of impact for mediation _________|
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|_____________ of continuous sequence ___________|_____ Immediate and simultaneous sequence ____|
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|____________________________________________|__________________________________________|
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|________________ Determinism _________________|__________________ Freedom ________________|
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|____________________________________________|__________________________________________|
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|_____________ Involuntary trembling _____________|____________ Free agency Quivering __________|
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|____________________________________________|__________________________________________|
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|__________________ RAGE ____________________|___________________ DESIRE ________________|
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|___________ Causality; cause and effect __________|___________________ Choice _________________|
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|___________ life energy flows by reaction _________|__________ life energy flows by freewill ________|

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Another kind of knowledge — The understanding of times and the relativity of simultaneity

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Álef — Life energy and existence never had a beginning;

Beth — Because there's no beginning of life outside of what is already life energy.

Gêmel — Everything that has a beginning has an end. Both, the beginning and the end of life, do not occur without a termination of continuous sequence that was initiated by the life energy;

Dálet — For there's no end nor beginning of life that is not a termination of continuous sequence.

Hê — And as there's no knowledge nor thoughts without the simultaneity of life energy flowing in immediate and simultaneous sequence; Even so there is no beginning of life if the continuous sequence [ with which life is generated ] does not equate to a gradual fall occurring in immediate and simultaneous sequence [ that is the Initial Time of life energy ].

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Unloaded Complementary Notes

The above Graph puts an end to the dualities when a French man, whether René Descartes or a Matrix program, has brought up that 'there is only one constant; the only real force: Causality; Action, reaction; cause and effect…. Choice is an illusion, created between those with power and those without…. Causality. There is no escape from it. We are forever slaves to it.'

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Edited by CrazyDiamond7, : update


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Message 21 of 87 (657153)
03-26-2012 11:26 AM
Reply to: Message 20 by celestialGyoud
03-26-2012 11:08 AM


Re: Life energy and TREPIDATION GRAPH - Definitions Reloaded
Life Energy is the life force which, in nervous system, increases the rate of trepidations.

Every trepidation is a quivering and is the physical expression of life energy flowing in nervous system.

What are these trepidations, what are these quiverings, and how do trepidations cause them?


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Panda
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Message 22 of 87 (657154)
03-26-2012 11:32 AM
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03-26-2012 11:08 AM


Re: Life energy and TREPIDATION GRAPH - Definitions Reloaded
Do you think that what you post makes sense to anyone?

I know it doesn't make sense to you as you do not speak English.

But maybe you have some English speaking friends that could look at what you are posting?


Tradition and heritage are all dead people's baggage. Stop carrying it!

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Message 23 of 87 (657214)
03-26-2012 5:54 PM
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03-26-2012 11:32 AM


Re: Life energy and TREPIDATION GRAPH - Definitions Reloaded
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Panda writes:

you do not speak English.

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Grammatical errors were not found. The following is in 100% American English:

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Perhaps what has often been found is a Panda that does not like the unusual since Pandas are more oriental by nature and are accustomed to the oriental way.

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Message 24 of 87 (657221)
03-26-2012 6:14 PM
Reply to: Message 23 by celestialGyoud
03-26-2012 5:54 PM


Re: Life energy and TREPIDATION GRAPH - Definitions Reloaded
CD7 writes:

Panda writes:

But maybe you have some English speaking friends that could look at what you are posting?


Perhaps what has often been found is a Panda that does not like the unusual since Pandas are more oriental by nature and are accustomed to the oriental way.

So, that is a 'No' then.

Please - go find someone that speaks your own language AND English.
Ask them for help.

You.
Do.
Not.
Speak.
English.

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Message 25 of 87 (657285)
03-27-2012 11:25 AM
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03-26-2012 5:54 PM


Re: Life energy and TREPIDATION GRAPH - Definitions Reloaded
Perhaps what has often been found is a Panda that does not like the unusual . . .

Actually, it appears that a Panda does not like jibberish and woo. Stringing words together is not communication.


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Message 26 of 87 (657293)
03-27-2012 12:22 PM
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03-26-2012 5:54 PM


Re: Life energy and TREPIDATION GRAPH - Definitions Reloaded
CD7 writes:

Grammatical errors were not found.


You cannot find grammatical errors because you do not speak English.

quote:
The above Graph puts an end to the dualities when a French man, whether René Descartes or a Matrix program

'Graph' should not be capitalised.
There is no graph above that sentence. (The word you should have used is 'chart'.)
'Matrix program' is not a French man.

3 grammatical errors in half a sentence.

You.
Do.
Not.
Speak.
English.

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Message 27 of 87 (657446)
03-28-2012 4:04 PM
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03-27-2012 12:22 PM


Re: Life energy and TREPIDATION GRAPH - Definitions Reloaded
Definition of graph from Datasegment,

v 1: represent by means of a graph; "chart the data" [syn:
graph, chart]
2: plot upon a graph
graph - Collaborative International Dictionary of English v.0.48 (?)
Graph \Graph\ (gr[.a]f), n. [See -graph.] (Math.)
1. A curve or surface, the locus of a point whose coordinates
are the variables in the equation of the locus; as, a
graph of the exponential function.
[Webster 1913 Suppl.]

2. A diagram symbolizing a system of interrelations of
variable quantities using points represented by spots, or
by lines to represent the relations of continuous
variables. More than one set of interrelations may be
presented on one graph, in which case the spots or lines
are typically distinguishable from each other, as by
color, shape, thickness, continuity, etc. A diagram in
which relationships between variables are represented by
other visual means is sometimes called a graph, as in a
bar graph, but may also be called a chart.
[Webster 1913 Suppl. +PJC]

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The Trepidation Chart might work as a graph for showing the levels of one constant [ the relativity of simultaneity and the initial time of life energy ], and at the same time shows two constants [ a permanent end and a permanent beginning ] and their respective levels.

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quote:

You.
Do.
Not.
Speak.
.....


If I was a panda I wish I could speak, and I wish I could perhaps write short sentences using several dots like 'you[.] do[.] know[.]', no matter how many grammatical shakedowns would occur around the world since the importance is that, by using dots in a sequence that indicate a pause after every word, the person who reads will take a time to achieve meditation through the panda energy.

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Message 28 of 87 (657465)
03-28-2012 5:57 PM
Reply to: Message 21 by Taq
03-26-2012 11:26 AM


Definitions Reloaded —— Life energy and TREPIDATION GRAPH
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Hi Taq,

Knowing that trepidation or quivering is the physical expression of life energy,

one might verify through understanding of times and relativity of simultaneity that the Life Energy is the life force which, by quivering and trepidation, works up the
substitution
of a sequence that terminates with an immediate sequence of time that is relative to the initial time of life energy.

In other words, trepidation [ an immediate sequence ] is the means by which life energy connects the physical [ the entire nervous system ] to the appropriate sequence of time [ the initial time ] that a high range of life energy is reached.

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That is to say,

◊◊◊ — The sequence that terminates: the continuous sequence of a second after another

◊◊◊ — is substituted with a time of impact that is a shortening between the continuous sequence that terminates and the initial time of life energy.

◊◊◊ — by the precise means of trepidation and quivering

◊◊◊ — because the sequence of time of a trepidation: immediate sequence;

◊◊◊ — is necessary to connect the physical: the entire nervous system

◊◊◊ — to the relative range of energy: your life energy becomes simultaneous with the source.

◊◊◊ — and that relativity of simultaneity gives you life.
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Samples of questions often asked: Why do these things occur ? Why are the quiverings and trepidations required ?

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Shortest answer in 5 words: Continuous sequence is not enough.

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This is what happens to a sequence of time that is required for a fuel to be consumed by fire without explosion: The lenght of time it takes [ a continual sequence or a second after another ] that is required for the fuel to be consumed by fire naturally, without explosion, terminates much before the explosion could occur. That continuous sequence is not enough and terminates from the precise moment that the fuel was put into a tight and closed space rather than poured on a wide and open surface

The explosion occurs because a continuous sequence is terminated, as it was quoted before: the regular continuous time that is left for a fuel to be consumed has terminated giving room for the time of impact for termination of a continuous sequence, that is the explosion itself.

In other words, the length of time it takes for a fuel to be consumed is terminated: that is why the explosion occurs. -- e.g.: if you spread the fuel over the floor and put fire on it then it will take the length of time it usually takes to be consumed. The explosion does not occur since one gives time to it: a continuous sequence [ a second after another ] that is the real length of time the fuel takes to be consumed.

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In regards to the Human body and nervous system, the continuous sequence is not enough because the sequence of a second after another is not the right sequence of time for life energy. The appropriate time for life energy is an immediate and simultaneous sequence.

A trepidation is necessary because the motion of a quivering, being in immediate sequence, makes a mediation between the continuous times that terminate [ a second after another ] and the time of impact for mediation between a trepidation and the shortening of life energy as it was quoted before: The sequence that terminates: the continuous sequence of a second after another is substituted with a time of impact that is a shortening between the continuous sequence that terminates and the initial time of life energy.

One can't get no satisfaction with a regular and ordinary motion because the continous sequence is not enough. On the realm of one constant: Freedom; Choice; in moments of Desire and pleasure, people who can't get enough do not stay with an ordinary continuous sequence. People who can't get enough do find permanence of life energy by the quivering and trepidation [ immediate sequence ] of desire for an immediate pleasure through which one might go to heaven more often.

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Edited by CrazyDiamond7, : update

Edited by CrazyDiamond7, : in all things that depend on the termination of a continuous sequence [ of a second after another ]

Edited by CrazyDiamond7, : 7xs

Edited by CrazyDiamond7, : 7xs


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Panda
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Message 29 of 87 (657466)
03-28-2012 5:58 PM
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03-28-2012 4:04 PM


Re: Life energy and TREPIDATION GRAPH - Definitions Reloaded
CD7 writes:

If I was a panda I wish I could speak, and I wish I could perhaps write short sentences using several dots like 'you[.] do[.] know[.]', no matter how many grammatical shakedowns would occur around the world since the importance is that, by using dots in a sequence that indicate a pause after every word, the person who reads will take a time to achieve meditation through the panda energy.


You.
Do.
Not.
Speak.
English.

Tradition and heritage are all dead people's baggage. Stop carrying it!

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Message 30 of 87 (657575)
03-29-2012 11:49 AM
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03-28-2012 5:57 PM


Re: Definitions Reloaded —— Life energy and TREPIDATION GRAPH
That is why bombs do explode; because the regular continuous time that is left for a fuel to be burned has terminated.

Bombs explode because they have acquired the energy needed to trigger a spontaneous reaction. This is similar to how nerves work. For example, the photoreceptors in your eyes produce an action potential when they absorbe energy in the form of photons.

There really is no need for using terms like trepidation or quivering. The actual mechanics of the nervous system are already well understood. I would suggest reading up on it and learning the terms instead of making up new terms.


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