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Author Topic:   A Minimalist Bible
New Cat's Eye
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Message 13 of 58 (708304)
10-08-2013 10:14 AM
Reply to: Message 11 by frako
10-07-2013 7:39 PM


If anyone is interested I thought that it might be interesting to have a discussion about the Bible from a minimalist position.
Yea if you want a minimalist bible, or Koran, or Torah all you need is a piece of paper with the words:"Don't be a cunt" written on them.
I'd prefer this one:
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Message 21 of 58 (708385)
10-09-2013 9:53 AM
Reply to: Message 18 by Faith
10-09-2013 3:30 AM


Christianity does require an inerrant Bible
Do you have a teaching from Jesus that suggests that?

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Message 26 of 58 (708406)
10-09-2013 4:08 PM
Reply to: Message 25 by Faith
10-09-2013 3:56 PM


Being inspired by God is not being verbally dictated to by God.
Edited by Catholic Scientist, : No reason given.

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Message 33 of 58 (708463)
10-10-2013 11:05 AM
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10-09-2013 5:31 PM


You are using the word "inspired" in a casual sense; in the accurate sense it's the equivalent of God's dictating the original Greek and Hebrew. "The WORD of the Lord came to me" say the prophets. Not the concept of the Lord, the general idea of the Lord, but the WORD of the Lord.
I see. Truthfully, though, "The WORD of the Lord came to me" is a cliche that we only see in the Old Testament and it is not something that Paul actually wrote to Timothy.

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Message 34 of 58 (708464)
10-10-2013 11:09 AM
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10-09-2013 6:34 PM


Re: Inspiration
Being inspired by God means that it comes from Him and not from our own vain imaginations.
Okay, but that doesn't have to mean that the words are being verbally dictated to you. Too, you could be inspired to create things that don't even contain words, like music or paintings.
Now, lets say that you do have the words verbally dictated to you, i.e. you're hearing voices. How do you know that it is coming from Him rather than your own vain imagination?
Isn't it pretty vain to think that God is talking directly to you?
Further, if someone writes something and says that God verbally dictated it to them, then how do you know that it came from Him rather than their own vain imagination?

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Message 35 of 58 (708465)
10-10-2013 11:13 AM
Reply to: Message 32 by GDR
10-10-2013 9:38 AM


What does it mean to be inspired? Let’s say I’m an author who has broken my arm so I ask my wife to help me. She sits down at the computer and I dictate what it is she is to write. Would you say I’d inspired her to write? Of course not, I gave her specific instructions with no inspiration whatsoever. If however I tell her that she has a real talent for writing and that she should sit down and use her talents to write something wonderful using her abilities then I have inspired her.
This is actually a really good point.
If God is just dictating exactly what to write, then he doesn't even need the human there, he could just use telekinesis to move the pen around himself, or just make ink appear on the pages.
That it says that it is inspired, implies that it was not dictated, as you point out.

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