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Author Topic:   Raise Minimum Wage? Progressive Taxes? Let the Rich Decide!
ringo
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Message 5 of 57 (740196)
11-02-2014 3:06 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Jon
11-01-2014 3:25 PM


Jon writes:
I say we should just let the rich people vote on what to do with their money.
I agree - give them one vote apiece, just like everybody else.

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Message 15 of 57 (740350)
11-04-2014 11:18 AM
Reply to: Message 8 by Coyote
11-03-2014 7:32 PM


Re: Let the theives decide how they should be punished?
Coyote writes:
They are rich because they -- or their parents -- stole the profits from the workers who made it.
Bullshit.
I keep asking you, "Does Donald Trump work a thousand times harder than I do?" and you never answer. Does he work harder than Dillinger?

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ringo
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Message 17 of 57 (740372)
11-04-2014 12:21 PM
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11-04-2014 12:08 PM


Re: Let the theives decide how they should be punished?
Cat's Eye writes:
No, he works smarter.
I prefer to think he has different goals than I do: his goal is to make a lot of money; Dillinger had the same goal.

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ringo
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Message 29 of 57 (740451)
11-05-2014 10:54 AM
Reply to: Message 18 by New Cat's Eye
11-04-2014 12:41 PM


Re: Let the theives decide how they should be punished?
Cat's Eye writes:
Trump has been smarter than Dillinger in the fact that he didn't get himself killed by the cops at age 31.
Don't get me wrong. I like Donald trump - but you don't get rich by giving it away, which is one reason I'm not rich. (On the other hand, I'm sure he gives away a lot more than I do, so the overall effect may be better.)

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ringo
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Message 31 of 57 (740460)
11-05-2014 11:28 AM
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11-05-2014 11:19 AM


Re: Let the theives decide how they should be punished?
Jon writes:
I'm sure he also takes a lot more than you do too.
I'm just saying that if I give a thousand and he gives a milion, that's a lot more help. It's quite possible that the harm he does outweighs the help.

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ringo
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Message 47 of 57 (742241)
11-18-2014 11:45 AM
Reply to: Message 43 by New Cat's Eye
11-17-2014 4:32 PM


Re: cooperation rather than mini-kingdoms
Cat's Eye writes:
But we have a hard enough time getting people to show up for work when we're paying them. I can't imagine how hard it would be to get them to show up for work when we're not
Maybe you need to replace the people who are doing the hiring. Ever hear of the Peter Principle?

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ringo
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Message 49 of 57 (742246)
11-18-2014 12:26 PM
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11-18-2014 12:21 PM


Re: cooperation rather than mini-kingdoms
Cat's Eye writes:
And if people won't show up for work, I'm not sure what the hiring manager can do about it other than just hire someone else.
I'm just saying, maybe the hiring manager is careful to hire people who don't threaten his job. Hire the incompetent and the lazy and you have no upwardly-mobile competition.

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ringo
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Message 55 of 57 (742364)
11-19-2014 10:54 AM
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11-18-2014 10:14 AM


Re: cooperation rather than mini-kingdoms
Cat's Eye writes:
... since the floor sweeper is hardly providing a value he doesn't get much pay.
At the moment, I'm a floor sweeper in two retail stores. I make more than the sales "associates".
(In my book, you're an "associate" if your office is near the boardroom; if your locker is in the lunchroom, you're an employee. Instead of a cutsie title, I'd rather have the money and just be loosely affiliated with the associates.)

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