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1.61803 Member (Idle past 1533 days) Posts: 2928 From: Lone Star State USA Joined: |
Hi Faith,
With all respect, After reading this response from you it is abundantly clearyou have absolutely no clue where homosexuality is concerned. This is fine but realize these points. 1. If someone is homosexual they are or they are not. There is no in-between, so to think someone can just wake up and say " I'm not going to be gay anymore." Isn't how it works. 2. Living as a celibate homosexual is does not change the fact that the individual is still a homosexual. 3. If God is all powerful and all knowing he created homosexuals along with heterosexuals. In so doing condemned a large population of his creation to eternal torment and suffering because someone that is homosexual is not choosing to be such no more than someone can choose their eye color. Edited by 1.61803, : spelling."You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs
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jar Member (Idle past 423 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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Faith writes: This life is short compared to eternity. So true and an eternity with the God you try to market and surrounded by bigoted Fundies can only be described as Hell.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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ringo Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Faith writes:
Since Jesus said that lust is the equivalent of adultery, I don't see how celibacy makes any difference.
... I heard of a lesbian who became Christian, realized she couldn't change, and came to the understanding she would have to live celibate.
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xongsmith Member Posts: 2587 From: massachusetts US Joined: Member Rating: 6.4 |
ringo opines:
Since Jesus said that lust is the equivalent of adultery, I don't see how celibacy makes any difference.
Well, I would wager to say that Jimmy Carter thought differently about this Jesus quote. Which bible?- xongsmith, 5.7d
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ringo Member (Idle past 441 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
xongsmith writes:
The King James, of course, in God's own handwriting:
Which bible?quote:My guess is that whosoever looketh on a man to lust after him hath also committed adultery with him, whether anything touches or not.
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Phat Member Posts: 18348 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
ringo writes: My guess is that whosoever looketh on a man to lust after him hath also committed adultery with him, whether anything touches or not. Whichever gender be the object of our sexual attraction, the issue is objectification and seeking only what you can get out of a person versus a desire to commune, learn from, love, and nourish that person. Any dog can hump a leg, whatever gender the leg happens to be attached to. It takes a real hound to start a genuine relationship, however. Edited by Phat, : No reason given.Saying, "I don't know," is the same as saying, "Maybe."~ZombieRingo One of the major purposes of debate is to help you hone your arguments. Yours are pretty bad. They can use all the honing they can get.~Ringo If a savage stops believing in his wooden god, it does not mean that there is no God only that God is not wooden. (Leo Tolstoy)
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined:
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Apparently some can change, that's what many say they have in fact done at that site. I'm fully aware that some can't. What the difference is I'm not sure. It's not always like eye color.
Living as a celibate doesn't change your basic orientation but it does keep you from the sin that God condemns. The sin of lust in the heart can also be controlled but it takes work.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9201 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
and sometimes sex is just sex. Nothing more needs or should be attached to it.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9201 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
personally I like a little lust in my life.
Happens to everyone. If you want to feel bad because you lust it is your problem. Me I am just going to enjoy it. Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined:
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Of course. If you don't feel that you have to answer to God's word you would just follow whatever feels good. The problem enters in when you believe it and want to obey it.
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jar Member (Idle past 423 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
But why believe what you try to market Faith when the source you claim is so filled with contradictions, discrepancies and outright false assertions?
I understand that you claim those don't exist but never provide support beyond references to other folk that also believe as you do. For the rest of us we find when we read what is actually written in scripture that the contradictions, discrepancies and outright false assertions do exist. We post the actual wording but your only response is either denial, silence or more references to others that believe or claim to believe as you do.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
The contradictions are fabricated by you though you think you are jut reading straight. You aren't, you are misreading.
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jar Member (Idle past 423 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
As I predicted you offer nothing but denial.
Got it.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1473 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
That's all you offer yourself. You give your absurd reading of a Bible passage and that's all you do.
And by the way if I were "marketing" my beliefs it would be nice to make some money at it.
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jar Member (Idle past 423 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Faith writes: And by the way if I were "marketing" my beliefs it would be nice to make some money at it. Something needs to have some value before you can make money from it but there sure are a bunch of folks making lots of money marketing the same product you espouse.
Faith writes: That's all you offer yourself. You give your absurd reading of a Bible passage and that's all you do. I don't do "readings", I leave that to the Carny Spiel called evangelism. What I do is produce what is actually written. Are two fowl and seven fowl the same number of fowl?Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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