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Dr Jack
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Message 20 of 76 (111095)
05-28-2004 7:31 AM
Reply to: Message 16 by jar
05-27-2004 10:37 AM


Re: Hitler and Christianity????
Hitler was, most definetely, a theist however it is not clear at all that he was a Christian. In fact he appears to have been exteremly damning of Christianity - I've seen numerous quotes that imply this was so. Although I've not actually seen the sources for them, so I'll refrain from repeating them here.

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Dr Jack
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Message 24 of 76 (111136)
05-28-2004 11:44 AM
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05-28-2004 11:31 AM


Re: Hitler and Christianity????
Jar writes:
It is not Darwin or Evolution or Religion that is responsible, it is evil people.
I don't think I believe in evil, I certainly don't think that viewing peoples actions as being caused by them being 'evil' helps. Fact is, Hitler didn't achieve what he did by his own will and strength but by the co-operation and help of the German people. Ordinary, decent people men and women stood by, and helped in, the perpetration of one of the greatest attrociaties of the century. Somehow I doubt they were all evil.
Or to take another example, look at the people behind the slave trade. The men and women of America, and Britain, that aided in, used, bought and sold African slaves - where they evil? All of them?
It's easy, and perhaps conforting, to believe it takes evil people to commit evil deeds. But the lessons of history are quite clear on this; it doesn't - ordinary, decent, folks will do just fine.

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Dr Jack
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Message 25 of 76 (111138)
05-28-2004 11:52 AM
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05-28-2004 11:31 AM


Re: Hitler and Christianity????
If you have read of this thread on another site - you'll find a big list of quotes from Hitler that apparently show that Hitler held the Church in contempt. I do not know whether these quotes are valid, or not.

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