Seems to me we can not go forward beacuse debate as "mock" really is a joke but if one understands the economy of creationism one reality emerges that shows that debating clubs while worthwhile for some areas of academic progress will not socially cut the mustard that Gish and others have leveled on origns etc.
This is new with my generation. And with the "debate" there. Here I mean, I expected that those who stared it wanted a solution. There are some technically available but since Johnson and ID I have been flooded that I can barely keep my Zimmer Zipped and my mouth not tongue in cheek. A sneaker net still works even though IT has moved on to call this a dino legacy of those who indeed do and can read.
Debating in 70s was cool but meanwhile I was creating a 4-H herpetology club that acutally used debate once in talking about evolution and as teen agers we had not the stamina to keep this thing going all these years and moved on to the knowledge representation. Those who build networks are aware but have not learned what a bunch of teen agers in central Jersey got by word of mouth before the having to have responsibility for a payroll over over.
There is such a thing as reverse genetic engineering. This is not what connects networks today.
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