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TheLiteralist
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Message 1 of 66 (226339)
07-26-2005 12:10 AM


I would like to see a good discussion of fossilization processes.
Are all, or almost all, fossils considered (by mainstream, evolution-believing paleontologists) to be the result of mini-catastrophes? Or, do most paleontologists believe that fossils are the result of animals dying in their environment and being slowly covered up?
I've read a few non-creationists' books on the subject (mostly geared for young people or high-school-aged children, though). These usually indicate that a creature dies in it's environment and is then slowly covered up over time -- lots of time. Over billions of years, of course, we wind up with layers and layers of fossils.
Is this the opinion of actual paleontologists?
I, of course, believe the Flood provides the explanation. However, I do not wish my thread to be plagued with questions about whether or not the Flood is possible. Instead, I would like for attention to be focussed on the process of fossilization itself.
I actually don't expect the discussion to prove YEC assertions, as OEEs (old-earth evolutionists), even if the evidence was conclusive that EVERY fossil was of catastrophic origin, could argue countless mini-catastrophes have occurred over billions of years...or whatever.
What I did want to see is whether people at this board tend to think fossilization is better explained by catastrophic events or by slow, normal processes...and their reasons for believing as they do.
I would especially like to hear from the geologists like roxrkool, edge, JonF, etc. and -- if there are any at this board -- actual paleontologists.
But everybody of all backgrounds would be welcome to throw in their 2 cents, too...in accordance with the EVC rules, of course...because I am also curious to see what non-geologists believe about the subject.
--Jason
(AbE: suggested forum is Geology and the Great Flood)
This message has been edited by TheLiteralist, 07-26-2005 12:19 AM

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TheLiteralist
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Message 4 of 66 (226356)
07-26-2005 2:22 AM
Reply to: Message 3 by NosyNed
07-26-2005 12:32 AM


Re: taphonomy
I have a suspicion that most non-geologists and non-paleontologists believe in the died-and-were-slowly-covered-up idea.
Thanks for the official name of the science. I'll google it.
How ya been, Ned?
--Jason

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TheLiteralist
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Message 54 of 66 (231354)
08-09-2005 12:16 PM
Reply to: Message 53 by Percy
08-09-2005 9:55 AM


Re: numbers
Well, it looks like I've turned TB's recolonization thread into a "fossilization process" thread...and randman has turned my "fossilization process" thread into...well, i'm not sure what...I guess a thread about deriving actual number of species from current and fossilized species or something like that.
Percy writes:
What process do you think explains the whale fossil record?
Are you talking about the "evolution" from pakicetus to the modern whale?
If pakicetus didn't give rise to whales, then pakicetus is not part of the whale fossil record.
What evidence is there that "pakicetus" gave rise to the whales? (I mean besides the fact that somebody decided to put the "cetus" suffix on the creature's latin name).
--Jason

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