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Author Topic:   General Relativity, Gravity, Help!!
crashfrog
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Message 2 of 20 (64291)
11-03-2003 11:54 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Tsegamla
11-03-2003 11:43 PM


Both of those are analogies. Neither of them are true. They're both equally right.
Basically there's no such thing as the "force" of gravity. There's only straight-line motion through warped space. Because we're in space, and light follows the warps, we don't see them, and the paths of objects appear to bend.
In what direction does space warp? Not in a direction we can percieve. That's why we can only see it when something travels through the warped space. Basically the space (and time, they're the same) stretches into another dimension that we can't percieve.
Does that help? The reason there's math for this is because the math is the only way you can accurately understand it. The analogies help explain but they're ultimately only approximations of what's going on.

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crashfrog
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Message 10 of 20 (64663)
11-05-2003 11:50 PM
Reply to: Message 9 by Tsegamla
11-05-2003 11:20 PM


They made gravitons seem crucial to string theory, so why don't they agree?
I think it's something like this - every particle in the universe is attracted to every other one. That means that every particle is constantly trading gravitons with every other particle in the universe. That's a lot of particles. Of course, the gravitons themselves are particles, so they're also exhcanging gravitons. Eventually you have an infinite number of gravitons, which, if they have mass, collapses the universe into a singularity instantly. If they don't have mass, they're a pretty weird particle, and it wouldn't be clear how they could do their job at all.
Or something like that. I'm sure I'm wrong somewhere, there.

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