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Author Topic:   Universe - Size . . . something doesn't compute !
MeCCaniX
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Message 52 of 69 (55232)
09-13-2003 10:06 AM


Sorry to intrude on this, but I see many people discussing physics
and Eintein/dimensions etc etc, when isnt this more of a philosophical dilemna?
The basic reason for this question is a refusal to accept either a
finite or infinite universe right? Perhaps the answer lies in a change
in perception rather than a change in your knowledge. What if there is
infact nothing beyond this 'wall'?
The known universe is so vast (10 thousand trillion trillion metres I
believe) that light would take a trillion years to cross it, the
human mind has difficulty actually vividly envisioning time beyond
our lifetimes, and distance beyond our environments. Isnt it possible
that we are incabaple of understanding an end to the universe because
we percieve the world around us in such limited linear terms?
In accordance with big bang theory, the universe is expanded from a
definite 'starting point.' in other words the universe has a
definable, finite orgin. Isnt it therefore also possible it has finite
dimenisions and size? Also the universe is said to be expanding from
this location right? In that context doesnt it seem logical that the
universe is infact a definable, finite 'entity' expanding within
an infinite plain beyond our comprehension?
The concept Im trying to convey, Im not sure how well Im succeeding,
is that we are dealing in areas beyond scientific understanding or
testing. All we have is perceptions and comprehensions of what we see
as 'logical'. Therefore isnt it our perceptions which need exploring,
since it is a basic inabilty to envisage either argument that causes
these difficulties?
I dont know Im not half the scholar that some of you are.
Hopefully I've made some sense though.
.peace.
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..To the intelligent, every fact is an explanation..
..To the ignorant, no explanation will suffice..
[This message has been edited by MeCCaniX, 09-13-2003]

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MeCCaniX
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Message 54 of 69 (55266)
09-13-2003 5:17 PM
Reply to: Message 53 by crashfrog
09-13-2003 5:07 PM


Do you have a problem with a finite universe within an infinite realm?
Thats what I was suggesting (if only as a concept.) If you consider
the big bang leading to notions of an expanding universe starting at
a fixed point, (ie the estimate of 13.5 billion years), doesnt this
suggest it is definable, and is expanding into something which is at
least large enough to sustain its growth?
.peace.
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..To the intelligent, every fact is an explanation..
..To the ignorant, no explanation will suffice..
[This message has been edited by MeCCaniX, 09-13-2003]

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