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Archer Opteryx
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Message 33 of 92 (418785)
08-30-2007 10:09 AM
Reply to: Message 32 by RAZD
08-30-2007 8:58 AM


Re: No Definition of "Kind" by you (Vashgun) in this thread
Add my request to those of RAZD and molbiogirl.
I would like to see that definition of 'kind', too. It is the topic.
Your definition of 'kind', Vashgun, is... what, exactly?
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Archer Opteryx
Member (Idle past 3626 days)
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From: East Asia
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Message 36 of 92 (419325)
09-02-2007 4:14 AM
Reply to: Message 35 by Jazzns
09-02-2007 2:06 AM


Re: No Definition of "Kind" by you (Vashgun) in this thread
Seconding Jazzns.
For 'kinds' to work as a scientific term--which is necessary if you want this concept to be taught in public school science classes--it first has to be given a scientific definition.
You assert:
Living things only evolve within the limits of their 'kind.'
The statement has a logical corollary:
Living things do not evolve outside the limits of their 'kind.'
Practically, the definition of 'kind' becomes 'that range outside of which living things cannot evolve.'
We now need to test this idea through observation and experiment. Here's the catch: in all research to date, no intrinsic barriers to evolution have been found. What we find is that genetic variation can go and go and go. Over time the accumulated variations can add up to some spectacular changes.
It is thus up to those who think intrinsic barriers on evolution exist (at the boundary of 'kinds') to state where the barriers are. Scientists may then begin testing.
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