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Author Topic:   How about teaching evolution at Sunday school?
Apostle
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Message 75 of 106 (62982)
10-27-2003 12:20 AM
Reply to: Message 74 by Quetzal
10-16-2003 3:44 AM


Why not Teach Evolution at Sunday School
A very interesting discussion is going on here. I have not read the previous five pages so perhaps what I have to say has already been stated. If it has I apologize for repeating it.
TEACH EVOLUTION AT SUNDAY SCHOOL
I beleive the author is using hyperbole here, which of coarse is merely a way to emphasize his point. However many religious people send their children to school, and pay taxes towards this also, which makes them feel as if their viewpoint should be treated equally. Is this realistic?
The evolutionists money is not going to the Sunday school programs, and if he does not want to send his/her children their why should he/she worry about what is being taught. However the creationist does send their money to the school programs, so should equal time be given?
A Biblical teaching of Creation is not likely but a scientific teaching of creation is what many would consider a reasonable request. Many polls would seem to indicate this.
Also, pick up a Catechism of the Roman Church, written in 1996 by Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger. The Roman Church does not support the evolutionary beliefs that modern evolutionists hold dear.
Sincerely,
Apostle

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Apostle
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Message 81 of 106 (68892)
11-24-2003 12:05 AM
Reply to: Message 77 by Mammuthus
10-27-2003 7:25 AM


Re: Why not Teach Evolution at Sunday School
Mammuthus,
Your quote in message 77 is this: "Why should scientists care what the Catholic church advocates or does not advocate?"
To answer your question I would say that few should and even fewer care. However, someone suggested that the Catholic church did support evolution. They cited the Pope's famous adress to the Papal Academy of Sciences as evidence for this. Now ofcoarse, the Pope, evolutionists, even scientific creationists all agree that evolution occurs. Scientific creationists differ when it comes to macro-evolution. The Pope would also be against this. Yes the pope supports evolution, but I feel it is misleading to not say what that evolution is. The Pope and the Roman Church would favor the Biblical account of Creation.
Who cares? You dont have to. I was merely correcting another responder's statement.
Apostle

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Apostle
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Message 87 of 106 (70487)
12-02-2003 12:02 AM
Reply to: Message 86 by sfs
11-26-2003 11:32 AM


'Realities of Science?'
The realities of scicence should not cause you spiritual distress unless you belong to a church that finds fault with all scientific theories (In which case you should have found a new church). What I say next is in response to your message, but has little to do with this particular post of teaching evolution in Sunday schools.
The realities of science, enables us to be aware of the change and variation that exists in society and life in general. Those who are religious cannot deny this, they also have no reason to. It is not a reality of science that man and ape have a common ancestor. Nor is there any scientific evidence that life, when traced back, arose from a primordial soup. While this theory is becoming less popular and newer versions are taking form, the 'realities' that your make note of are believed by many, but it is not through evidence but from the need for information to satisfy the desire to delete a Creator from the picture. There is so much that science cannot explain and it is both arrogant and intolerent of them to refuse to consider the fact that all that we know has a Creator. Many religious people ( in your case I believe it would be Christians) do not refuse science. But please let us not trick ourselves into believing that the many evolutionary claims are in fact 'realities of science.'
I hope this does not seem like a tirade against your message, however I think it might be. In one sentence, my point is this: Christian accept science, but not the macroevolutionary claims that you refer to as 'realities of science.'
Sincerely
Apostle

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Apostle
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Message 92 of 106 (72736)
12-13-2003 5:24 PM
Reply to: Message 91 by sfs
12-02-2003 3:42 PM


sfs,
I would be interested in hearing your thoughts on the various issues. Most particularly I would be interested in seeing the evidence you have documenting macroevolution. I am also curious that since there is no fossil transitionary forms, what you would point to in support of the evolution of species from one bacteria to all the living beings today.
However, this is not going to fit under the current topic so we will have to leave it for another day.
Respectfully,
Apostle

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Apostle
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Message 94 of 106 (74188)
12-19-2003 12:37 AM
Reply to: Message 93 by NosyNed
12-13-2003 6:14 PM


Re: some thoughts
I will indeed take a look at this link. If necessary I might gain from adding to it.
Apostle

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