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Brian
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Message 3 of 148 (21549)
11-04-2002 6:04 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Ahmad
11-04-2002 4:19 PM


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Originally posted by Ahmad:
Darwinism is a theory that is supported for the sake of materialist philosophy. This is the main reason behind the zealotry of Darwinists in countering the criticisms against their theory. For a long time, especially in the Western world, critics against the theory of evolution has been assaulted by several means: media propagated against them, they lost their jobs in schools, courts ruled against teaching theories other than evolution.
But the scientific evidence is not on the evolutionists' side, so they are loosing ground inevitably. In the last few decades, criticism against the Darwinist dogma was raised from every corner in the scientific community. This created a public awareness about the fallacies of the theory of evolution and the evidence for creation. In the last few years, this awareness is having its impacts in the US educational system. The dogmatic ban on teaching "creationism" - the view that life on Earth is the artifact of a Creator - is now questioned and abolished in several states.
The latest crack in the wall of Darwinist dogmatism came from Georgia, one of the southern east states of America. The Guardians News website reports the following:
The board of Georgia's second-largest school district voted Thursday night to give teachers permission to introduce students to varying views about the origin of life, including creationism. The proposal, approved unanimously by the Cobb County school board, says the district believes "discussion of disputed views of academic subjects is a necessary element of providing a balanced education, including the study of the origin of species."...
Supporters, including high school junior Michael Gray, said the board's choice encouraged academic freedom. "I had to do a term paper about evolution and there were just things that I could disprove or have alternate reasons for," said Gray, who attends Pope High School. "I want my brother and sister to be given the option and not told it's the absolute truth."
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The Darwinist establishment is alarmed against this decision. The strange fact is that they are trying to use legal means to stop creationism, not any intellectual effort. As Guardians News reports, Barry Lynn, executive director for Americans United for Separation of Church and State says that they will sue the Cobb County school board. "It would be as if Cobb County were putting up a giant `sue me' sign," he adds. What he misses is the fact he is using the same method used by the infamous Inquisition centuries ago: Trying to defeat a scientific idea by "legal" means.
The Inquisition had failed to protect its dogmas-like the Ptolemaic model of the universe. The Darwinist establishment will fail too, to protect the myth called evolution.
(1) News, sport and opinion from the Guardian's US edition | The Guardian

What is the big deal?
I have personally taught creation is various Scottish schools, theres nothing surprising about this.
I have taught a Hindu Creation Myth, the Muslim Creation Myth, both Genesis creation Myths, the Chinese Pan Ku creation Myth.
These have all been in the Religious and Moral Education departments, which is where creation myths belong.
Does anyone know how many different creation myths are the schools in Georgia going to teach?
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Brian
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Message 5 of 148 (21566)
11-05-2002 3:01 AM
Reply to: Message 4 by John
11-04-2002 6:38 PM


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Originally posted by John:
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Originally posted by Brian Johnston:
Does anyone know how many different creation myths are the schools in Georgia going to teach?

ummmm..... only the one true creation myth -- dressed up as Intelligent Design or some such.
This is the problem. This stuff isn't being taught in religion class. It is being taught in science class, as science.

Hi John, hope you are well.
Which myth is the 'one true creation myth' or will the science classes test the probability of each myth to find out which one is true?
Best Wishes
Bria
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Brian
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Message 9 of 148 (21587)
11-05-2002 10:14 AM
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11-05-2002 9:12 AM


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Originally posted by John:
quote:
Originally posted by Brian Johnston:
Which myth is the 'one true creation myth' or will the science classes test the probability of each myth to find out which one is true?
In the US, the creationist movement is pushed primarily by Christian fundamentalists. Sadly for them, the US has a policy of not teaching religious dogma in public school. And so the issue is disguised as 'Creation Science'
What will actually be taught, I wager, is some form of Intelligent Design Theory, which in a nutshell is "The universe, and life in it, couldn't have came to be without having had the input of an intelligent agent at the wheel." Proponents claim to be able to detect the evidence of design but somehow can't make a case for it.
If you search EvC you'll find a great deal on the subject. It come up a lot.

Thanks for the reply, I will have a look around the forum.
I think the Intelligent Design theory is more philosophy than science and William Paley's design argument has been reduced to nonsense by people such as Kant and Hume.
I dont think it is very scientific to say that everything has to have an intelligent designer then say that the intelligent designer doesnt have an intelligent designer.
Having had a lot of experience in teaching high school I am certain that some semi intelligent school kids will make teacher's lives very difficult in 'creation'theory classes. Will science degrees now have to start having a theological element too?
Best Wishes
Bria
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