The possibility of pre-human civilizations on earth?

and found better series to whine about.or maybe got co-opting into the on-going wars v. trek debacle.This message has been edited by arachnophilia, 09-15-2005 10:23 PM

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ah, q was just messing with him. everyone knows you can't change the past.

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Oh yes you can... you just need to take Geordie's visor and hook it up to Data's positronic brain, while coupling the two through the transporter grid. You remember when they did that? Which episode was that in... ermmm... oh yes, all of them

Dammit, I was a meanie and set a trap (Message 16)and no one took the bait.(hurls expensive trap-building manual in waste-basket)

you forgot the deflector dish.and duct tape.or rather "jeffery's tube tape"

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I'd like to see it, know where I can find it? I understand. For me, i can read it and say "wow, very convincing" but then I can immediatley turn on the skepticism and say "no way, this guy is full of crap". I just thought it was a 'fun' read with some interesting, unconventional views. I'm not totally convinced its just that I saw multiple posts saying that there was no evidence for a 'lost civ' and I though, "I read that book that had plenty of evidence'. To say that there is no evidence is ignorance in my opinion. Yeah, even ancient Rome surprises me in their technological abilities. It's just crazy what people were capable of 'way back then', and that might be a fun topic to discuss in a new thread as I think it pertains to the whole EvC thing. I mean, if our society is a 2nd, or 3rd even, generation of technolically advanced civalizations, it would affect both sides of the discussion. He is way over the top, so to speak. And for sure a little crazy, but I like him. His Mars writings are way too far out there for me to consider, but I still do it, and it is enjoyable, in a science fiction sorta way. ok, I won't argue that it isn't true but I will acknowledge that the evidence is present and our current explanation of ancient history could be re-concidered.whats with the random letters at the end of your posts?, are those just typos before you hit 'Enter' or is there some meaning behind puting a lone letter at the very end?

To start with the end the random letters seem to be inserted by the bulletin board system. I've tried editing to remove them and just get another letter pasted on the end. Probably browser compatibility - I'm still using Netscape 4 for most things.Hancock's TV series was shown on Channle 4 some years ago. I don't know if it is available for sail or rent but you can probably find more on Hancock's website (along with his moans about the Horizon show criticsising his claims). The Official Graham Hancock Website - Graham Hancock Official WebsiteThe Neolithic people traded over quite long distances - certainly between Britain and the Mediterranean. There are some impressive remains in Malta, and their stone-working echnology was quite highly developed. allowing for the limits of their tools. But that's still well short of Hancock's claims.

No, I didn't, but I couldn't remember its sodding name But I knew you would reply with it... prescience at its best!

No there were no "pre-human" civilizations on earth.No skyscraper building homo erectines, or Neanderthals with laptops and monocles.Modern humans have been around for close to a quarter million years, and The real Great and mighty civilizations began to blossom at around 6000 BC. It is not impossible that 2 million year old civilizations could have existed for example... But physical evidence of this is certainly not in existence to my awarness.

Hancock is a crank.There, I've said it.How did this civilization survive with no domesticated plants or animals? Because we have good archeological and genetic history of our domestic critters and plants. It is not reasonable to suppose that animals or plants that were less than amenable to domestication were the basis of their economy, and that these animals were subsequently forgotten while their other knowledge and technology wasn't.

They would have to have had them.What evidence is there that says that domesticated plants and animal could not have existed before the last ice age? Why couldn't they have used different domestic critters than we use today? but most of their knowledge and technology WAS forgotten.The book suggests that when the pre-historic civilizaion was wiped out, most other stuff was wiped out too. LOL, yeah...wait till you see his new book Supernatural.

In an evolution class back in college, I had to investigate whether the dinosaurs went extinct due to natural causes (such as a massive meteor strike) or whether they all died because of a global nulear war and resultant nuclear winter. The premise was what evidence would be found regarding one or the other theorized destruction.If you look at when we think the dinos went extint (65 million ya), how much of a dino civilization might remain? If you hit any major city with a nuke, and then let it sit for 60 million years, how much like a city do you think it will look like? Any radiation from nuclear weapons would have easily faded to background levels in that amount of time. Interesting premise.

Do we find Dino bones?

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We find fossilized bones.But have we found every species? Maybe we just haven't found the ones that were intelligent. Or maybe we have, and are just too arrogant to consider the possibility of an intelligent dino? Perhaps the intelligent dinos society cremated all their dead in ceromonies to appease their Sun God...Pyro...so we won't find remains from grave sites or the like. And the ones killed by the nuclear strikes, the ones in the dino cities, would be difficult to find remians of.In the world today, there is only one mammal that creates cities and civilizations, so it would not be illogical to think that in the time of the dinos, there would only be one that was intelligent.If a giant meteor struck the earth, caused large clouds of dust to fill the atmosphere and block out the sun, as well as other nastiness associated with being smacked by a giant rock, is there a big difference between this and a nuclear winter? Just in case it hasn't translated into text that well...I do not actually think that there were intelligent dinos that destroyed themselves by means of a massive nuclear war. It was just a fun little exercise back in college.~~clpMINI

I don't dispute that nuclear winter might be similar to the results of the meteor, but things got left.Many of our constructs are more lasting than bones. Empty your pockets sometime and look at all the things in there that if dumped on the ground would still be around long after your bones had rotted away.If bones from a particular period became fossilized and recoverdd, would not some of those even more duarble objects also survive? And would there be more intellegent critters or objects created by them intellegent critters?But not to worry, I tried marketing a story on an alternate history once that included an intellegent species that would leave NO indications at all.

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