corroboration of virgin birth, history of medical science

The Bible gives three accounts of very unusual births. The birth of Isaac by Sarah. The birth of John the Baptist through Elizabeth (John was picked to be the forerunner of Jesus's ministry that was going to take place. John was also filled with the Spirit in his mother's womb and he lept in his womb when he was near Mary/Jesus). Now the last very unusual birth in the Bible was Jesus of course.Now one would not be surprised if a very unusual birth took place without much trouble. In fact, one would not be surprised if it were a medical textbook example of a healthy pregnancy. After all if evil men like Mussolini and Hitler can "make the trains run on time" (see: He made the trains run on time you know — Crooked Timber and http://www.ishipress.com/hitler.htm and http://www.rnw.nl/en/html/insite020112.html ) it would not be surprising if the Almighty created a medical textbook example of healthy birth.Consider this information from a website:"I was in the Luther Library at the Lutheran Seminary in North Adelaide and browsing through some books on the Recent Acquisitions shelf.In a book about WOMEN IN ROMAN BRITAIN I was surprised to learn that ancient Roman doctors were uncertain how long human pregnancy lasts. Some said 11 months, some said 8 months. "Here’s a test for the theory of Biblical Inerrancy," I thought to myself.Biblical Inerrancy is:"The doctrine that the Bible, in all it teaches, is free from error."
(COMPACT DICTIONARY OF DOCTRINAL WORDS 1988 T. L. Miethe)The Bible makes many references to pregnancy. If any such references include a statement on how long pregnancy in humans lasts there is potential for error. If the Romans were wrong why shouldn’t the Bible be wrong too?The Bible in Luke chapter one discusses the pregnancy of the mother of John the Baptist. Verse 36 mentions Elizabeth’s "sixth month". Next elapsed enough time for Mary (Jesus’ mother) to travel from Nazareth to Judea where Elizabeth livedabout 150 kilometres. (Luke 1:39) That may have taken about a week. Then followed 3 months. (Luke 1:56) And: "Now the time came for Elizabeth to be delivered." (1:57)Obviously, Elizabeth’s pregnancy was about 9 months.The book THE HUMAN SPECIES (1961) by Anthony Barnett presents a study of 537 pregnancies of white American women. The percentages giving birth in certain numbers of days were:Before 266th day 12.7%
266-272 days 12.3%
273-279 days 22.0%
On 280th day 3.7%
281-287 days 24.2%
288-294 days 15.6%
After 294th day 9.4%Elizabeth’s term of pregnancy was clearly well within what modern research reveals to be average."taken from: ADSL, ADSL2+, Broadband plans, Internet, Telephone, VOIP, SIM | Internet Service | Adam Australia | Internet Service | Adam Australia Now is a statistically average pregnancy length a more "perfect birth" in terms of health. I do not know. Is there a doctor in the house?By the way, here is the citation for a book mentioned above:Allason-Jones, L. (1989), Women in Roman Britain (London: B.M.P.)Sincerely,Ken

TO: ALLI try to find Christian apologetic works which are less widely known like my Mosaic Dietary Code string rather than rehash things that are widely known and have been discussed at length in the public square (Another example would be my Jonah string which discussed whale gullet size among other things).I did ask in my first post to this string "Is there a doctor in the house?" in regards to a question I raised. June, July, and August are my busy work season. I will return to this string in September to see if anyone found anything to the question I raised. If I run across any apologetic works that are less known, I think I will probably introduce these at EVCFORUM in the future. Perhaps, I will connect with Percy in the future again to put these in via columns which he suggested I offer.To Custard:Custard if you are reading this I suggest you relook at Mosaic Dietary string since you made an error (puffer fish) plus I offered additional commentary on that string. See my string regarding lionfish. I cannot post in your string. Talk to Asgara and Percy about this restriction.Sincerely,Ken

TO: CrashfrogIf one very unusual birth, namely John the baptist, is medical textbook in length as far a healthy birth then it lends some credence to the virgin birth which is closely associated with. Let us not forget that it appears the 9 month duration may have not been widely known if we are to use the Roman doctor citation.By the way, have you looked up the Dr. Macht study published by John Hopkins? I noticed you are not very active in this string and since you are prolific I found the absence unusual. Please see: http://EvC Forum: The Mosaic Law food laws show evidence of divine knowledge? Law advanced other ways? -->EvC Forum: The Mosaic Law food laws show evidence of divine knowledge? Law advanced other ways? regarding the Mosaic food laws and the Macht study. If you do look up the Macht study do not forget to be fairminded.Sincerely,Ken

TO: ALLI am assuming the "6 month" refers to the time from when she knew she was pregnant.Sincerely,Ken

more specific clarification:The initial post reads:"The Bible in Luke chapter one discusses the pregnancy of the mother of John the Baptist. Verse 36 mentions Elizabeth’s "sixth month"."I am assuming this six month refers to the time she first was aware she became pregnant.Sincerely,Ken

TO: CustardIt is perfectly exceptable to say A can do B and we would at the very least expect C to do D given that C is All powerful.I think in addition to your logic course you need to consider common sense.By the way, I receive in A in logic at the college I took it at.TO: ALLPreventative measureI did say Hitler was evil. You can use the word God and Hitler in the same sentence in polite company. I also made no reference to Hitler being some how on par with God in his abilities. In short, no foul committed here. The Bible says all have sinned. There are more people than Hitler and a few other evil despots in hell.Sincerely,KenSincerely,Ken

tO: allre: previous postexceptable = acceptable

to: JarI said:"By the way, I receive in A in logic at the college I took it at."I realize it should be:"By the way, I took a logic course in college and received an A."Tell Asgara to restore my edit function. She is still mad about the success of my Jonah and other strings. She needs to get over this and stop holding a grudge! LOLSincerely,Ken

Dear Custard:I know that "freethinkers" like to see themselves as somehow as paragons of logic and reason. Yet, if this were true one would expect them to be very mentally stable. I do not think you will like my next new string that I may introduce later. Please see Home | CS Lewis for a sneak preview.I think the Vitz/Mayo Clinic data are telling.If you want to search your library via the NORC social science database perhaps you can find something about atheism and mental health. So far, I would not say the social sciences paint a flattering picture.If you decide to search NORC let me know what you find.I have another string creation that I may introduce regarding what I found about the non-religious via the social science data but it is top secret. If I tell you, I have to kill you.Sincerely,KenSincerely,Ken

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