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Originally posted by zipzip:
Just so we understand each other...the Christian 'fish' symbol is from the Greek 'icthus' (fish) whose letters form the acronym of 'Jesus Christ, Son of God' in Greek. The fish was a symbol that allowed first-century Christians, under the brutal persecution of the Roman government, to recognize each other in relative secret.

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The Darwin fish symbol mocks the icthus. In doing so, it mocks Christ. It also mocks the deeply-held beliefs of millions of people who bear you no ill will. Finally, it mocks the suffering and death of thousands of first-century Christians and the brutal persecution that millions of Christians under repressive Communist and Islamic regimes face today.

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I suppose that whoever designed the Darwin fish symbol did not mean this, but was instead an ignoramus who thought the icthus symbol had something to do with young earth creationism, of which many Christians are not proponents. But it is sad that otherwise decent people propagate such pathetic ignorance, bad taste, and bigotry.

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The christians borrowed the fish like they borrowed everything else.
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... but you specifically said FALSE attacks on creationism. You said nothing about attacks which are not false.------------------
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Originally posted by thousands_not_billions:
So you believe these attacks to be true?

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The first is a bit of a stretch but I understand the point and it is a good one.The second is dead on as far as I can tell. Get to know your heroes.The third is hilarious and, sadly, accurate as well.------------------
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Originally posted by zipzip:
My point is that the stylized Christian fish, which indisputably represented Christ and was used by early Christians because of its symbolic acronym, is the symbol that is mocked.

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No Christian, early or otherwise, saw the fish symbol as a representation of the genitals of the Earth mother (or whatever [sheesh, rolling my eyes]). That is just *crap* (this needs to resound, so imagine Mike Myers in Scottish brogue through a PA system).

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The Jews and the Christians did not live in a vacuum. The cultures around them had an influence. That is the point. I don't think the early christians thought of fish and genitals but the connection through various traditions is there. For example, the RCC accepts St. Brigid but no catholic really believes that she is a co-opted goddess named Breed. This, despite the fact that she is a co-opted goddess.------------------
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This is sort of like taking a Geo Metro, ripping out and replacing everything except the plastic/sheet metal shell, painting that another color, and then changing the person to whom the car is licensed. Is it still the same Geo Metro? If so, then we need to tell those Catholics to STOP COOPTING PAGAN GODDESSES, #$%@!

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More like ripping the name tag off and pasting on another. The changes are fairly slight. If you know what you are looking for you can still see the pagan symbolism and even some of the ritual. Many saints are like this. Not all are, obviously. St. John of the Cross was a monk, so was St. Ignatious, St. Augustine was a real person as well, for example.------------------
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