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Larni
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Message 2 of 49 (467024)
05-19-2008 5:35 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Yrreg
05-18-2008 7:44 PM


I did a ouija board once.
Nothing happened.
Can't say I'm suprised; it's just 19th century parlour trickery used to wow the guests after you've finished the port.

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Larni
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Message 12 of 49 (467659)
05-23-2008 5:35 AM
Reply to: Message 5 by Yrreg
05-21-2008 4:41 PM


Re: From witnesses to theory of spirits' existence
Yrreg writes:
Don't we have here enough testimonies and witnesses for a theory of spirits' existence?
The answer to this is no. If there was real evidence of spirits etc, don't you think that since the witnesses of their existence i.e. spirits' are so numerous, and dating to from since man attained conscious intelligence this evidence would be easily availible for examination?
If someone really could contact the dead, don't you think the mechanism would have been understood? After all, humanity understands so many arcane concepts today that it boggles the mind.
Contacting the dead remains unsubstantiated because the only evidence in existance is vague statements by vagues people with vague experiences that absolutly do not stand up to investigation.
Yrreg writes:
Time to get together all the testimonies of history and all the men and women today who have contacts with spirits, to get a theory on spirits' existence formulated, so that we can have a science of spiritology.
What kind of data do you think this is?
Is it reliable?
If it is how can you tell?
Is it valid?
If it is how can you tell?
One could perform some really interesting qualitative research on the meanings these 'witnesses'ascribe to their experiences but the objective truth is beyond personal account.
Yrreg writes:
So, if you are honest with yourself and you have a modicum of reason and intelligence, then you don't really need to pay for the service of any experts in the psychological service sectors to help you know yourself,
In a perfect world this would be the case. It is not a perfect world and many people are not able to behave in this way.
The point is that ouija boards and spiritualists have displayed no evidence to suggest that there is a means of contacting the dead.
And another thing, spiritualists only seem to pop up in western culture after the advent of radio. I can't help but thinking this is important for the introduction of the concept of invisible communication.
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Larni
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Message 14 of 49 (467783)
05-24-2008 10:00 AM
Reply to: Message 13 by Yrreg
05-23-2008 8:00 PM


Well now I'm confused.
So do you want to drop the ouija board topic?
I would have thought the mechanism of evolution can be easily summed up with mutation and natual selection.
Any other questions?

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Larni
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Message 17 of 49 (467870)
05-25-2008 4:46 AM
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05-24-2008 6:17 PM


Re: Well now I'm confused.
Yrreg writes:
What I have read from the messages here is more toward warning not to dabble in ouija board activities, because it can lead to disasters even to death of participants or family members and friends of participants who don't dabble in the board.
No idea why you think that: the responses in this thread only seem to say it's a load of old bollocks and parlour tricks.
Yreeg writes:
There seems to be a hurry to dismiss the ouija board, owing as I said to the fear of disasters presumably from the spirits contacted
No one has said this, Yreeg. No one at all.
Yrreg writes:
it is an easy and economical method to get to know oneself which one then can then employ for self-guidance in life,
No it is not. Sigh. Go back and read this thread.
Yrreg writes:
Allow me to invite you to join me in a new thread on the role of nature in random mutation and in non-random natural selection.
I would be happy to join you.

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Larni
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Message 24 of 49 (582585)
09-22-2010 8:57 AM
Reply to: Message 19 by Yrreg
09-21-2010 8:32 PM


Re: I am not dropping the ouija board subject, but I have not come....
I see you have found no research for ouijs boards: ask yourself why?
The reason why is that it is bollocks. People get it into their heads that the dead can comunicate with the living and they will jump on the ideomotor effect and call it communication.
Now that you know about ideomotor effects what possible reason can you have believe people who claim to have seen the planchette move unaided?
Think: if dead peoples spirits could talk to us, why don't they all talk to us? Why is it only people using these silly boards? You would think they would all be shouting at us but apparently all they can must is to tell us about Lyx2no's dog Muff-Muff.

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Larni
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Message 27 of 49 (582608)
09-22-2010 10:42 AM
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09-22-2010 10:34 AM


Re: I am not dropping the ouija board subject, but I have not come....
That's what I call thinking outside the box!

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