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The moment of illumination

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Kader
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05-10-2007 1:00 PM

  • At what moment did you believe (and why) ?
  • Since then did you ever doubted that you might be wrong ?
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    For me it was inevitable.
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    My parents being from different religions (muslim and catholic) they've never imposed any belief on me. When I was a kid though I believed in God because my parent did, they never gave me the bible to read or the Qu'ran, but they talked about God.
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    I never really was part of a group of people sharing the same belief (no such thing as agnostic group..and even if there was, I didn't even know I was agnostic until not too long ago)
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    As I grew up, I met many people, most of them religious (either christian or muslim) and they tried at some point to epxlain there view of God to me(with a confidence I admired). But everytimes they applied a flawed logic. The Qu'ran says its true, and so it is. If I had the audacity to point it out They gave me the "you don't understand yet" look. So I stopped, and I kept nodding until they finished.
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    I couldn't understand the faith they had in a book. They didn't question it. I know that there is a lot of different interpretation, but each time, there is always a leap of faith, hence you don't know, but you choose to believe (and act as if you know).
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    What made me agnostic is simply that unfounded stubborn faith and mostly the lack of integrity. I've seen muslim drink and gamble, I've seen christian preaching war etc etc.
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    I said it was inevitable for me because I think that in most cases, if you don't mold the belief of a child early on, he will most likely be agnostic or atheist. This is from personal experience (hence, unfounded).
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    *unfounded : For believer its founded on many things, like the number of people believeing and the validity of the message.
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    Kader
    Member (Idle past 3757 days)
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    Joined: 12-20-2006

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    05-16-2007 2:42 PM     		Reply to: Message 6 by Equinox
    05-16-2007 12:40 PM

    Re: My Spiritual History (very long!)
    It was very well put, and I enjoyed reading it from A to Z.
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    Thank you for posting your story!
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    Kader
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    05-16-2007 2:47 PM     		Reply to: Message 5 by Doddy
    05-14-2007 10:41 PM

    Doddy writes:
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    So, I essentially acknowledged that Christianity was certainly wrong. Once I did that, it wasn't hard to consider all religions to be wrong too, although to this day I remain sensibly agnostic against the core of most non-Abrahamic religions (though I am firmly skeptical of any claims of mysticism or supernaturalism).
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    I understand perfectly well, but I always try to keep all the doors open (agnostic) with every religions and especially with the concept of God.
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