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General Nazort
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Message 31 of 36 (133689)
08-13-2004 6:08 PM
Reply to: Message 30 by Loudmouth
08-13-2004 4:24 PM


Re: Mustard-seed Faith
So would it be accurate to say that someone's faith is measured by the miracles they perform? Or is there another way to measure faith?
I think that would be a good way to measure it. However, not all faith is too the point of miracles, so I don't know how you would measure smaller faith.

If you say there are no absolutes, I ask you, are you absolutely sure about that?

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Message 32 of 36 (133699)
08-13-2004 6:27 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by sidelined
08-07-2004 11:49 AM


Sidelined:
The Greek says "the mountain will throw itself into the sea"
The context was Christ speaking the fig tree into deadness.
The context of what Christ said was the New Testament.
The context of the New Testament is the gospel.
The gospel is the way of faith to relate to God apart from the works of law.
The context is faith.
What does good works have to do with any of this ?
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Message 33 of 36 (133972)
08-14-2004 11:17 PM
Reply to: Message 8 by Rrhain
08-09-2004 1:03 AM


Re: Just because you aren't paranoid
Rrhain
What an anti-Semitic statement.
Are we seriously saying that to all the Jews and Muslim in the world?
Have we considered the possibility that god exists but not in the way we think? Are we seriously saying that a person cannot have complete faith in god and still be of the opinion that Jesus wasn't what he is claimed to be?
It was certainly not my intention to come off as anti-semetic but if you are stating the case as Christ did not really exist as a son of God then the words I quoted from the bible in the original post will not apply to you. A person who believes in God yet does not feel that the power described by Jesus is real is in no way included in this discussion.
I do have a question though Rrhain.How would one,in a politically correct world,phrase a statement that is in disagreement with a point of belief of Jewish origin without being labeled anti-semetic?

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Hangdawg13
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Message 34 of 36 (134222)
08-16-2004 12:21 AM
Reply to: Message 13 by jar
08-09-2004 6:45 PM


Re: Mustard-seed Faith
You do not test GOD. GOD is not a side-show or game. Any believer who took up such a challenge would NOT get the support from GOD.
I agree.
Jar, didn't you say one time that God had spoken to you on occasion? If God spoke to me, that would probably take my mustard seed and make it a mustard forest.
Although you don't seem to doubt God's existence or Christ's divinity, you refuse to say that you "know" these things to be true, but only say that you "believe" them to be true as if "believe" is a weaker form of assurance than "know".
So how great is your faith, and why is it so great?

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jar
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Message 35 of 36 (134225)
08-16-2004 12:25 AM
Reply to: Message 34 by Hangdawg13
08-16-2004 12:21 AM


Re: Mustard-seed Faith
So how great is your faith, and why is it so great?
I have no way of knowing how great my faith is except that it has stood me in troubled times. I hope it is sufficient for the needs.

Aslan is not a Tame Lion

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Rrhain
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Message 36 of 36 (135590)
08-20-2004 6:19 AM
Reply to: Message 33 by sidelined
08-14-2004 11:17 PM


Re: Just because you aren't paranoid
sidelined responds to me:
quote:
I do have a question though Rrhain.How would one,in a politically correct world,phrase a statement that is in disagreement with a point of belief of Jewish origin without being labeled anti-semetic?
That's hard considering that Judaism and Christianity have a fundamental disagreement: The divinity of Jesus. The problem seems to stem from a common attitude among many Christians that Jews and Christians worship the same god.
They don't. That fundamental difference would seem to be fairly definitive. God cannot both have sent and not have sent the Messiah. While Christianity comes from Judaism, it is much, much more than "Judaism + Jesus." Jews have not rejected Jesus out of petulance, spite, or laziness.
It is necessary to understand that many people find god without ever having heard the name "Jesus." To say, "If you have no doubt in God's existence then why do you not believe his son," is to imply that Christianity is so obviously true that something must be very wrong in order to come to some other conclusion.
In other words, there is a difference between describing what you believe and insisting that others should follow along.
If you have no doubt in god's existence, then why do you not keep kosher?

Rrhain
WWJD? JWRTFM!

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