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Animal Intelligence and Evolution/Creation

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PecosGeorge
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Message 12 of 102 (184783)
02-12-2005 10:29 PM 		Reply to: Message 10 by RAZD
02-12-2005 8:54 PM

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given that the concept came from india where atma means both soul and breath (mahatma = great souled one aka gandhi and gautama) ...
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you are correct, soul means breath also in scripture. Isms have placed a meaning on this it does not possess.
made from dust, add breath, equals living soul. remove breath, equals dead soul. and never never immortal soul.
spirit also falls into that category, it is no more than air.
Interestingly simple, ain't it?
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As for animals communicating? How else would they find one another in the dark? Just watched a program about giraffes, and their low-frequency communication. Very cool.
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"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."
Hey, Albert, I agree!
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Message 13 of 102 (184785)
02-12-2005 10:35 PM 		Reply to: Message 11 by RAZD
02-12-2005 9:13 PM

Re: more links?
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Have you seen the dolphin rings?
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this is awesome. I'm forever blowing bubbles, but cannot compete here.
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"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."
Hey, Albert, I agree!
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Message 14 of 102 (184786)
02-12-2005 10:39 PM 		Reply to: Message 1 by Aximili23
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My question is, does this research pose a problem for theists in general, and creationists in particular? If not, how does one reconcile such research with their religious beliefs?
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the serpent spoke to Eve in fluent English.
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"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."
Hey, Albert, I agree!
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PecosGeorge
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02-13-2005 9:12 AM 		Reply to: Message 17 by Aximili23
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Can you elaborate? Umm, are you saying that animal intelligence research supports the biblical references to talking animals?
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I was making a joke. Certainly, the serpent did speak to Eve and she understood what he said.
What can exist without even the simplest form of communication.
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"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."
Hey, Albert, I agree!
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