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Author Topic:   God's Prophecies: what is behind them?
Faith 
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Message 3 of 77 (211039)
05-25-2005 3:21 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Asteragros
05-23-2005 11:08 AM


Re: How do Prophecies work?
The problem is summarized with the following question.
When God pronounces a prophecy, He:
1) "Sees" the future, without compelling the happenings to fit the prophetic model (highlighting his foreseeing capability) or..
2) He controls and guides all the happenings so they will fit the prophetic model (highlighting his almightiness capability).
Neither and both in part. God simply conveys through the prophet what He has already planned and therefore knows will come about in the future. He sees the future as clearly as the past and present. He doesn't have to make anything fit, compel anything whatever, He is merely telling us what He knows is going to happen, and that's because He both "knows the end from the beginning" and "purposes" to do it.
Isaiah 46:8-11 Remember this, and show yourselves men: bring [it] again to mind, O you transgressors. Remember the former things of old: for I [am] God, and [there is] none else; [I am] God, and [there is] none like me, Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times [the things] that are not [yet] done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure: Calling a ravenous bird from the east, the man that executes my counsel from a far country: yea, I have spoken [it], I will also bring it to pass; I have purposed [it], I will also do it.
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Faith 
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Message 5 of 77 (211049)
05-25-2005 5:46 AM
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05-25-2005 5:38 AM


Re: How do Prophecies work?
You're off topic.

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Faith 
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Message 39 of 77 (212556)
05-30-2005 3:00 AM
Reply to: Message 33 by Buzsaw
05-29-2005 9:46 PM


Re: Child, you're new here ...
As I've suggested in the past, imo, it appears that the only reason in the world you call yourself a Christian is to use it as leverage against creo Christians who come on this board. In your debates about the Bible, you're the athiest's best advocate, arguing that about everything the Bible says is fable.
My impression too, Buz. The atheists are tame, polite, reasonable, compared to Jar. If he's a Christian, who needs Nero?

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