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Cybereagle
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Message 144 of 238 (51988)
08-23-2003 5:34 PM


Hello everyone. I joined this forum just for this area. Lucky you huh? Ok before I say a thing about this topic I want it known that I have not one credential save of course The Most High. In fact I am only 14 going on 15. But when I saw this forum I near jumped out of my skin with joy. I finally found a place to talk about Creation vs. Evolution so since I have no credentials that would get me any job at a science lab I will mainly stick with quoting people who actually do have the credentials. First I must state I noticed the gro-col mentioned so I will Quote from Dr. Kent E. Hovind The geologic column exists nowhere except in the text books. The only thing those layers are is a bunch of sand layers seperated by the great flood. Now I noticed that a lot of you said that the Creation vs. Evolution area is not touched on when you were in school (High school or college it does not matter) I hate to break it to you, but you were fed evolution through your whole time of going to grade school, even if it wasn’t directly called evolution. Creation on the other hand would not be mentioned much unless it is really brought up and then it would be slammed like crazy. In fact again I mention Kent E. Hovind. In one of his seminars I believe it was he mentioned a time that he attended a seminar on evolution and helped out with the preparation and everything. At the end Kent gave the man his card and said If you ever have real evidence for evolution give me a call. (The significance of that is more then what meets the eye because Kent has a standing offer in fact it is a much greater sum now of $10,000.00 to whom ever can give true evidence for evolution. Now it is $250,000.00.) That night both of them were teaching on there fields (Kent on Creation and the other man on evolution) and the other man pulled out the card and said this is how dangerous Creationism is getting they think there is no evidence for it. One question..How come he did not give the evidence then and ask for the money? Well that is all for now. I could go on quoting for the next hour, but I will stop here.
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Ben, "In the beginning God Created the heavens and the earth."

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Cybereagle
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Message 147 of 238 (51997)
08-23-2003 7:30 PM
Reply to: Message 146 by crashfrog
08-23-2003 6:04 PM


Ok I am going to respond to both people who responded to what I posted. First as far as the "kind" thing goes. I will tell you what I have learned as far as that goes (and no I am not interested in the offer just the truth.)A kind would be as such as a dog, a dog is not a cat nor is a dog a fish it is a dog a kind. Whether or not it can interbreed is not necessarily the issue a doberman and a chuwawa could never breed, but they are still a dog. Now as far as the credibility of Kent's doctorate goes. In one of his debates the woman who debated him started attacking is credentials. So at this point the debate was interrupted and he showed his degree from the college he went to. As far as his offer goes if you can tell me one person that you actually know (not just hear say) that he has done so too and I am told by that person him/herself that it happened that will give your claim more credibility. If you would like to speak with Hovind about these things I can give you his website url and his e-mail address or I can ask my step father for Mr. Hovind's phone number and you can personally talk to him yourself. I know it works because I have personally spoken with Mr. Hovind. I can also start quoting from others. I will list a few and see what you have to say.
1.Charles Liebert
2.Walt Brown Ph.D
3.Philip E. Johnson

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Cybereagle
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Message 148 of 238 (51998)
08-23-2003 7:35 PM
Reply to: Message 146 by crashfrog
08-23-2003 6:04 PM


One other thing I forgot to mention, as far as reading about evolution and not just paying attention to what the church says. I have been and plan to continue watching debates (which include both sides of the story) on this subject and eventually I plan to read Charles Darwin's book for the express purpose of being able to know everything evolutionists think. I also plan to read other books. Carl Sagan seems to have some odd views I would like to know about one day, but not yet. Oh and what do ya'll think about Steven J. Gould? If Dr. Hovind is such a fraud why did the leading evolutionist in ths country refuse to debate him?

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