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PurpleYouko

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Message 4 of 32 (164645)
12-02-2004 11:11 AM

Reply to: Message 3 by Dr Jack
12-02-2004 10:23 AM

Gods

Correct me if I'm wrong but as far as I know, only the Christian, Jewish and Islamic gods are considered all powerful.

I can't think of any others. As Mr Jack said, Greek, Norse and Roman Gods certainly weren't. Neither were the Egyptians, Chinese, Babylonian, Native American or any others that I can think of.

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Message 24 of 32 (182104)
01-31-2005 4:18 PM

Reply to: Message 22 by riVeRraT
01-31-2005 7:25 AM

When is something a God

RiverRat writes:

I figure that since the farther we look, the more we see, the smaller we look, the more we see. How can we comprehend something that may not even exsist in our demension?

Simple. we keep advancing our technology until we can build a machine or genetically engineer a person who can see into the other dimension and learn to fully understand it, conquer it etc.

Does that then put our machine inteligence/genetically enhanced Human on a par with God? Maybe.

What if we don't stop there but keep going until we surpass God?

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Message 27 of 32 (182252)
02-01-2005 9:01 AM

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02-01-2005 5:52 AM

Re: When is something a God

riVeRrat writes:

It's just common sense that "if" God exists, and he created all this, we would not be able to "surpass" it.

Yes that makes sense I guess. From a hypothetical position, (I'm glad you highlighted the "if"

) God "could" have created our universe as a limited space with no way out.
I guess it would be like a computer life simulation. There is no way that the creatures who live and evolve in the simulation could ever step out of the computer and surpass the programmer who made them. They are inherantly limited by the program of the system in which they live while the programmer (God) exists outside of it and can change the physical laws of their world at will. (or by clicking his cosmic mouse button)

I just keep coming back to that analogy for some reason.

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01-03-2006 8:49 AM

Reply to: Message 31 by macaroniandcheese
12-27-2005 7:46 PM

Re: When is something a God

there's a great deal of philosophy surrounding that precise debate... and even more science fiction. it's actually a kind of terrifying idea, but is it really impossible?

Is it really possible?
To me it is the only conclusion that actually makes any kind of sense.
If God exists then we are all lab rats in a really big cage.
Yes it is kind of terrifying.

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