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Author Topic:   Fundamental Atheism and the Conflicting Ideas Problem.
tsig
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Message 87 of 134 (199518)
04-15-2005 7:21 AM
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04-13-2005 6:38 PM


Re: Note: the dictionary defines atheism as a belief.
I would also say that this applies equally to dark matter and dark energy ... the mystical stuff that makes the universe spin on time
Eastern or Western time, be specific.

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tsig
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Message 93 of 134 (199709)
04-16-2005 5:11 AM
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04-15-2005 7:43 PM


Re: Note: the dictionary defines atheism as a belief.
if it's mystical it must be eastern eh?
The west has a long mystical tradition. The Imitation of Christ comes to mind, I used to have a copy and i would read a verse every day.

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Message 94 of 134 (199712)
04-16-2005 5:42 AM
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04-15-2005 9:46 PM


Re: Still no {A} list response, but more misrepresentation from contracycle.
I also note that you do not need to be a member of a "mystical" organisation to be a member of a group with tenets - this is another mistrepresentation of the argument, a strawman.
If there's no organization how are the dogmas agreed on?
The term "god" is a word without meaning because as you have pointed out so often we cannot determine {A}.

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tsig
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Message 97 of 134 (199725)
04-16-2005 8:03 AM
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04-16-2005 7:56 AM


Re: Note: the dictionary defines atheism as a belief.
I also choose to believe that {not quite nihilism\buddhism} is closer to {that general\my own} experience, because it fits better with my {world view}
How do you choose to believe?

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Message 99 of 134 (199728)
04-16-2005 8:41 AM
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04-16-2005 8:18 AM


Re: Note: the dictionary defines atheism as a belief.
the same way you choose ethics and moral values, the way you choose friends, the way you build your {world view} from your experiences and choose the way they are related.
some choose a {path\goal and then pick steps, others choose many steps to find that they have chosen a path. a bold path straight up the mountain may succeed or fail in reaching a {peak experience}, but it also does not guarantee understanding of the mountain.
You lost me when you made friends and morals equal.

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Message 102 of 134 (199970)
04-17-2005 7:15 PM
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04-17-2005 3:34 PM


Re: Continuing on Dark Matter.
Regardless whether the universe was created to behave by {created 'natural' laws} or just came into being {by unverifyable in other universes natural laws}, gravity is what holds the universe together.
Gravity will get us all.

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