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Author Topic:   When was the Tower of Babel Made?
Yaro
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Message 25 of 56 (54214)
09-06-2003 6:05 PM
Reply to: Message 20 by dragonstyle18
09-06-2003 2:53 PM


Re: the flood was when?
Hmmmm....
The intent of the builders you say?
Gen 11:4 And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top [may reach] unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth.
Gen 11:5 And the LORD came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of men builded.
Gen 11:6 And the LORD said, Behold, the people [is] one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do.
Gen 11:7 Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech.
Funny, dosn't look like the builders were doing anything wrong. They were all happy that they were united and a capable people, the tower was gonna be tall and symbolize them.
You could say it was arogance, but God makes no mention of that. Instead he says:
"and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do."
Sounds more like he's afraid of all the things humans can do when they are unified, and anything they wish will come to them. So God screws em up in an arbitrarily concived scheem to stay in power, and thwart human unity.
So we could safely say, that the reason the world is in such turmoil to day is because God destroyd our sense of unity all the way back in the tower of Bable. Before that event we were capable of working together to achive anything we wanted, after it, we were reduced to a bunch of quibbling madmen.
Nice going God!

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Yaro
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Message 27 of 56 (54216)
09-06-2003 6:14 PM
Reply to: Message 26 by dragonstyle18
09-06-2003 6:11 PM


Re: the flood was when?
Were does it say that? All God says is that like this, they can accomplish anything they imagine. Were does God say it is against his decree?

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Yaro
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Message 32 of 56 (54223)
09-06-2003 6:27 PM
Reply to: Message 29 by dragonstyle18
09-06-2003 6:18 PM


Re: the flood was when?
Gen 8:16 reads:
Gen 8:16 Go forth of the ark, thou, and thy wife, and thy sons, and thy sons' wives with thee.
This dosn't mean spread across all the lands, it means, leave the ark, go fourth. If he ment spread across all the lands then he would have said so. I mean, he had no truble saying things like br fruitfull and multiply, so why say somthing vague and unclear here?
And, more importantly, when God states his grivance:
Gen 11:6 And the LORD said, Behold, the people [is] one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do.
Notice that it says nothing about arogance, or a failure to meet his decree. God specifically says that he is worried that man can do anything he imagines in his state, so he decides to screw them up before they get 'uppety' or something.
Your view seems to be only an interpretation, and not based on what the scripture actually says.

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Yaro
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Message 35 of 56 (54229)
09-06-2003 6:44 PM
Reply to: Message 34 by dragonstyle18
09-06-2003 6:42 PM


Re: the flood was when?
Your rightm this may not be the proper thread for this question. I will open a new one.... in Errancy
I still think it's an interesting question tho.
EDIT:
Here is the new topic:
http://EvC Forum: The Tower of Babel, why did God mess it up?
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Yaro
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Message 53 of 56 (54292)
09-06-2003 11:40 PM
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09-06-2003 10:02 PM


Ok dragonstyle,
then what do you make of this verse:
Gen 11:6 And the LORD said, Behold, the people [is] one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do.
Why dosn't God say disobedience?

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