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Brad McFall
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Message 4 of 57 (16076)
08-26-2002 2:23 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Luis_H
08-20-2002 2:28 AM


The problem here is as Joe makes it APPEAR; for it is simply asserted that what details I may go into are NOT SCIENCE and yet I seem to USE more science than the evolutionists on this board can sue. So for the legality you are observing correctly. There seems to be more "evolution" info here than "creation" but believe it or not more words are acutally NEEDED to support (toes of evoltuion) than exist in Daniel so that a creationist often wins the sentence or post part while the evolutionist simply adds another line. At some point one's faculty of judging becomes active and one can navigate the board on ones own. But it does take some time to gain enough experience and familiarity with the different authorial styles after one logs on etc.
So I do not think that it is true that the creationist position I purport to support has been given as much weight as I dedicate to it but that is as much my fault for making the density unbearble at times as it is for the readers with some sophistication that simply have CHOSEN not to read the post just as they likely had already been presented the GOSPEL. As for Christians in Science I am quite settled in my ability to work through the history when I need to deleve a little deeper to bring some more electro-magnetisim to the issue of saving what is salvagable.

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Brad McFall
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Message 11 of 57 (16124)
08-27-2002 7:00 PM
Reply to: Message 7 by Mammuthus
08-27-2002 8:45 AM


[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mammuthus:
[B]I take issue with "common sense" and evidence for creation. Common sense would indicate there is no responsive greater intelligent being. Rather than common sense a creation hypothesis has to provide a testable hypothesis and then gather evidence to support it. Such a hypotheis is not forthcoming.[/QUOTE]
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Let me start then with two steps that we could argue till the cows come home as to whether you or I or someone else for that matter has been able to marshal any common sense in the appearence of the ILLUSION due to creation/evolution talk that never seems to get to the origin for any source that may biologically when not also cosmologically exist. Formally we may sincerely differ as to the psychology we may marshall but this is not a case where a search warrent is warrented the two known steps will get the discussion to a station on earth that with the declaration or not you are as independent as I to proceed to correspond or not.
STEP1) Economic Justification on reality of global economy creating discipline of nanotechnology-- whatever surface, table, plane the work is created on and afforded to be done by a rouge nation or the best of the brightest the pits that were in Wright's landscape need to be engineered in from the start (even if you side with Fisher on the point there is more than a point when it comes to the budget and the two sides of the account ledger no matter the chemicals that may already be shelved on either side of Wallace's line). This is where the older generation of creation criticism has been but the work of ICR (etc)had actually changed this by inductions that may not be in common with evoltionists that are affording such programs as NEON where the very computer architeture may be in the future the fault for some even with this e-commerce predictable in adavance if the two sides saw the illusion for the cash it overdetermines but underspends.
Step2) There has been a "virulent" military complex attached to the non-thermal effects of EM in biology that positively inhibits but does not prevent even mere linguistic progress since it pays for the bills to do the expts etc which could be gain said if the creationist call for a better than Descartes of modern mechanical intutiion as the speication governor and change machine of society for it is not theortetically obvious that QM as is is correctly in a paradgim to find the result but a hypothesis can and will be proposed with the nominal defintions that also come out in this step. If energy can be got from speciation it COUld be by reformations FOR WHICH A SIZABLE TECHONOLOGICAL SECTOR WOULD have to be re-directed to the and cooridination with the biology changing of and this does give a specific hypothesis from within the internal form that Maxwell closed the curve on that Newton dynamized , Pascal doubled and Galelio pointed in a line that...You may not understand this but this is hypothetical and not philosophical but came to light on working in the context of differnces of opinions of creation and evolution for it will continue to be a problem even with the words about electro-polution as long as govenernments do not want to mitgate the potential cost associated thought I am writing this from this station and not any random country etc but should speciation be understood in a taxogenci manner such that gravity forced histogeny and e-m morphogeny can be ontogenically distiguishable even in one speices then we will have our cat and it will be in the bag. Roosevelt could not have plained otherwise even if he did not really know how to write about snakes.
Step3)Ecosystem Engineering-- I do not go into this yet it is a discpipline that will continue to be worked into the present sustainale paradigm as we explore the environs and reveal the harms that urbanization may have such that the most toxic side effects of out posted post it modernized post modern space age society may shunt to stations off the planent to better increase our ecological chance of getting the global economy back down to earth and not in the inflationary side pocket of the 8 ball. Mr. T has nothing on me.
The word "extreme" no longer became one for me when I watched on Brown grounds the TVshow slide sports down a slope that was only one day called FUN IN THE SUN (or Slope Day) at Cornell. Neither of which exist any more than Disyney World in France or MJ in Poland. Popularization continues to be argued against TRUTH and this does not always allow one to get out of transcendental thoughts that remain as long as one thinks of it in the creation evolution debate.

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Brad McFall
Member (Idle past 5063 days)
Posts: 3428
From: Ithaca,NY, USA
Joined: 12-20-2001


Message 56 of 57 (17605)
09-17-2002 12:02 PM
Reply to: Message 51 by acmhttu001_2006
09-14-2002 2:17 AM


There is a thread deriavable from some sum of my posts that shows that medicine may be better off if the *cash value$ of evo lutioanry thought were not the theory that is currently being taught but then biology would be improved in such a symptom that even the phenomena would not be plural but common to and once and for all.

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