Meaning of "Us" in Genesis.

Hi jaywill, Where did you get the idea that God in Genesis 1:27 is not elohiym?Elohiym is translated God in Genesis 1:26 and Genesis 1:27.Elohiym is plural.The man in Genesis 1:27 was created Mind, Body, and Spirit.All Knowledge (Mind) = God the Father.
Body = God the Son.
Spirit = God the Holy SpiritThat is the us in Genesis.God Bless,

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

Hi IAJ, I don't know what Hebrew scholar you are getting your information from but you need to change.Elohim is singular and is not used in the Bible.Elohiym is plural, It is used in Genesis 1:1, 1:26, and 1:27.In fact every time you see God in Genesis it is from the plural form Elohiym.Elohiym said let us make man in our image.Elohiym created man in His plural image.Elohiym used us because He was a triune entity, All knowledge (mind), Body and Spirit. Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.God Bless,

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

IAJ,Why do you quote half a sentence that is in my message Message 56 then make the statement: Elohim which is singular is not in the Chaldee Hebrew text.
Elkim is not in the Chaldee Hebrew text. It is not even in my Chaldee Hebrew Lexicon.Elohiym is plural and is the word used for God in every place the word God appears in Genesis in the Chaldee Text and Masoretic Text JPS edition.The Greek word in the Septuagint LXX for God in Genesis is The God which mean the Godhead, trinity .I finally found where you are getting your information. It comes from the This text is derived from the Westminister Leningrad Codex and is based on the October 20th, 2006 WLC release. That version of the Tanach uses Elohim singular. I have no idea where they got their source from except it was not Chaldee Hebrew.As far as the rest of your rant what does that have to do with the us in Genesis?God Bless,

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

Hi jaywill, So then man was not made in the image of the three in one.
Mind, Body and Spirit.So which one are we made in the image of?Are we a spirit that thinks it has a mind and a body?
Or are we a body that thinks it has a mind and a spirit?
Or are we a mind that thinks it has a body and a spirit?God Bless,

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

Hi Joseph, I have no idea where you get Elokim from as it does not appear in any Hebrew text I use and was not in the Hebrew text that was translated into the Septuagint, as I can find. I do not find a command not to add or subtract in the Bible.
I did find in the Old Testament. I also found in the New Testament. In Message 62 Apparently you do not believe Jesus was Messiah, God in the flesh come down to pay man's sin debt but rather a prophet or teacher.
Therefore your declaration that Elokim must be used in Genesis. My singular form is spelled Elohim and does not appear in the book of Genesis.You talk about all out laws being based on the OT. Jesus gave us two laws in the NT. Love the Lord thy God with your whole being and above all else. The second was to love thy neighbor as thyself. These two cover the 10 commandments. Now how many of the other 613 laws given to the children of Israel do you want the Gentiles to be under?God Bless,

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

Hi Joseph, The important point is those laws were never given to Gentiles.God Bless,

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

Hi Joseph, Salvation comes only by believing on the Lord Jesus Christ. God loved mankind.Man was already condemned in Adam.Jesus died that mankind might live. Be born of the Spirit.He was resurrected that we might know it is real.All we have to do is receive the pardon offered by God.God the Father loved us. Jesus, God the Son died for us. The Holy Spirit seals our soul until the day of redemption when we are born again.This is the same "US" we find in Genesis 1:26.They are one.God Bless,

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

Hi Joseph, I can name you some 34,000 religious groups that will never come to that point. That is beside the point.The "US" that made man in Genesis 1:26.Who walked and talked with the first man made the rules.The first man was commanded not to eat of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. He disobeyed and thus was separated from the presence of God as God can not have sin in His presence. All mankind was separated from God by this man's disobedience.Because you do not believe there was an "US" in Genesis you do not believe and accept Jesus as Messiah. I have many Jewish friends who have accepted Jesus as the Messiah. They are considered infidels by their family's and friend's. It makes no difference whether I am sincere or not. It makes no difference what I believe. The only thing that counts is what God says.God had aparantly set forth how offerings were to be made to Him when the first man was kicked out of the garden.
Cain offered the best he had. Able offered the best he had. God accepted what Abel offered but refused what Cain offered. Cain killed Abel thus saying God now you must accept what I offer. It didn't work that way then nor does it work that way now.If you want to please the "US" in Genesis 1:26 you have to do things the way he says. The innocent humans you are talking about were born again children of God who would not renounce their belief in Jesus and believe the way the Roman Catholic Church said you had to believe. There was between 5 million and 50 million of them.The "US" in Genesis 1:26 tells us in the OT: You talk about a good man, God says there is no such thing.So how do you propose that man pay for this sin and be allowed in the presence of God? As I understand from your posts, you are saying man can be good enough. God says otherwise.You believe in your good deeds and good works all you want too. Until you are willing to believe the "US" in Genesis 1:26 you are separated from God, and will be separated from God for all eternity.We will stand before the "US" of Genesis 1:26 and give an account of our lives and whether we have believed Him and accepted His WordYou do your good works believing your good works will square things with God and make you acceptable to Him.I do my good works to show to the world that I have received Jesus Christ as my personal savior not for reward.God Bless,

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

Hi Joseph, What was the Laws, Statutes, Charge, and Commandments that Abraham obeyed? Gen. 26:5What was the Commandments and Statutes Moses talked about in Exodus 15:26?What was the Commandments and Laws God asked Moses about in Exodus 16:28?All this was prior to the ten commandments being given.God Bless,

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

Hi IAJ, Joseph God made a covenant with Abraham that was an everlasting covenant. God does not cancel a contract.Nothing scary about that.Jesus established His Church and made an everlasting covenant with it, and gave it orders. If the Church does what it is supposed to do it is blessed. Just like Abrahams descendants were in the OT.Nothing scary about that.God Bless,

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

Hi jay, The problem with the word translated young woman or virgin is the belief of whether Jesus was God as He claimed or a man, as the Pharisees claimed.Those who don't want to believe Jesus is God or the Messiah has to demote Him to an ordinary man.To believe that He was born of a virgin would mean that He did not have an earthly father. If he had no earthly father it would be necessary to believe Matthew's account of the virgin birth meaning Jesus was the Son of God thus God as He claimed.Since that is unthinkable to many they make Him human.Try as they may they can not change the fact that Jesus was God in the flesh and that He died for the sins of the world that whosoever would believe on His name would be saved. John 3:18.As I understand it the Hebrew Bibles today come from the Masoretic Text. This Text was finished in 1008 by people who did not believe that Jesus was the Messiah.The Greek OT was completed 1300 years prior to the Masoretic Text and was in use in the days of Jesus. That is why Jesus quoted it, as well as Matthew, Paul and others.Yes I think I will agree and take what Matthew and the Septuagint said over what a group of people that did not believe Jesus was God said.God Bless,

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

Hi IaJ, I believe all of Isaiah.You say part of Isaiah has been discredited.By whom was Isaiah 7:14 discredited?Would you provide the reference material where Isaiah 7:14 was discredited?God Bless,Edited by ICANT, : Deleted part after reading msg 135 that was not available to me prior to posting this message due to connection problems.

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."

Hi IaJ, Are you sure that wasn't a prepared great fish. God Bless,

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"John 5:39 (KJS) Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me."