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Author Topic:   The Nature of Mutations
Paul
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Message 15 of 344 (36984)
04-14-2003 1:12 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by PhospholipidGen
04-12-2003 1:44 AM


Agreed Phospho. There is tremendous variety in all species and the so-called proofs of evolutionists are what I believe to be mere variations, or minor changes within the same species. Billions of living organisms and fossils have given us absolutely no evidence whatsoever to show the slightest tendency to evolve out of the original kind to which each belongs. Development and normal growth within a species is Not evolution. Improvement or even new varieties within a species is Not evolution either. Science has demonstrated the law of improvement of a species through breeding and cultivation, however the same law has never been able to produce a New species. The TOE must prove Transmutation- that being a change in nature, substance, form, and alteration of essence by a slow and gradual process of mutation from one species to another, and from the lower to the higher. TOE just cannot find a way to do this, or find existing proof that it has happened, and without a change OF species there can be no evolution. Science has shown us that life will interbreed in closly related variations, but it has also shown us that there is an impassable gulf when interbreeding is attempted between different kinds of species. We all know that there can be no evolution without the power of reproduction in living things. Since reproduction is a prior condition to evolution, it Cannot be a product of it. This fact and the logical neccessity for the power of continued reproduction is a significant stumbling block to TOE. The power of reproduction is Not in the embryo, but only in the mature parent. Can an egg produce an egg? No. Can an egg improve upon itself? No. Improvement can only come in and through the mature form. Therefore, if life needs the mature form first, where does that leave us?? Quite a dilema for TOE indeed.
TRUE Science rejects many aspects of TOE and since not one of the many branches of TOE has been proven, let alone the main theory, I believe it to be purely speculative and at this point in time, quite literally a bankrupt philosophy - most definately not a scientific fact.
Until next time :-)
Paul

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Paul
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Message 17 of 344 (36994)
04-14-2003 2:52 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by NosyNed
04-14-2003 1:39 PM


Re: New Species?
Correct. All things discovered are always without fail accurately placed as a variation within an existing species.
Original Kinds?... Well, anything from a molecule to a Human being- with close to 3,000,000 different species, take your pick.
Now, the barrier between them?... A scientifically proven inherent failure to be able to transmutate into another species.
Evidence?... The same as you. Any shred at all! Which we've yet to see. Given the above statement however, I believe no generation will ever see evidence to turn TOE into Scientific fact.
And what does this have to do with anything?... Everything. Re-read it and put it beside TOE and you'll see what I mean. Then again, I believe you know exactly what it means and are simply baiting.
Paul :-)

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Paul
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Message 19 of 344 (37001)
04-14-2003 4:38 PM
Reply to: Message 18 by NosyNed
04-14-2003 3:04 PM


Re: New Species?
Ark ? Did I metion an Ark in my post ? Please Ned, stay on track.
Now back to Evolution- It's the Law of Sterility that stands guard at the far frontiers of each species to guard against transmutation, and in fact protects the integrity of each individual species. It's just there, period. Thats your barrier.
There's no confusion whatsoever on my part Ned. As I said, TOE is a speculative, bankrupt PHILOSOPHY that thinks it's using science to further establish itself, when in fact day by day science is quickly clearing a space on the shelf for it.
Paul :-)

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