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Author Topic:   Ring species as evidence for speciation
arachnophilia
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Message 8 of 53 (112892)
06-05-2004 5:39 AM
Reply to: Message 4 by Gary
06-03-2004 2:51 AM


the Cuban anole (Anolis sagrei sagrei)
i'm from an hour or two south of there. brown anoles are ALL OVER the place, and have been since i was born. your story was very nice and convincing even, except for the fact that i've lived around these things all my life.
they can change the lightness and darkness of their skin, and i think the patterns, according to environment. they're nowhere near as good at it as chameleons, but that is probably the origin on the statistical differences.
-- although, the anoles surviving the colder weather up in g'ville may indeed be evidence of speciation.

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Message 11 of 53 (113151)
06-07-2004 2:37 AM
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06-06-2004 5:53 PM


i believe the reply will go something like this "i don't believe it! it's not happening god says so!"
or better yet "wow, microevolution, but a lot of little changes can't possibly add up to big ones"

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Message 13 of 53 (113368)
06-07-2004 5:29 PM
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06-07-2004 2:56 AM


because, you know, they don't believe in addition.

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arachnophilia
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Message 15 of 53 (113456)
06-07-2004 11:40 PM
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06-07-2004 11:08 PM


Since that would sacrifice their salvation, they wouldn't dare
now, THAT i don't understand. it was after all the sign of addition on which the savior was sacrificed, was it not?

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Message 19 of 53 (113733)
06-09-2004 1:52 AM
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06-08-2004 1:32 AM


They are so afraid of not being "saved" that really that is what their life revolves around. If Satan is tempting them every step of the way, then it is also easy to presume that Evolution is just a devilishly large ploy to lead them astray, and thus lose out on salvation.
well, the really sad part is that, in my opinion, there is so much more to christianity. people who get caught up in the absolute need for the literalness and inerrency of the bible miss so much.

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Message 22 of 53 (114053)
06-10-2004 12:49 AM
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06-10-2004 12:26 AM


this could be interpretted as an attack on certain board members.
but as a christian, i will agree. genesis being literal is not something faith should be based on, and faith does not require proof.
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Message 29 of 53 (119564)
06-28-2004 3:12 PM
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06-16-2004 5:34 PM


now you know that's not the definition.
horses and donkeys interbreed all the time, and they're not the same species.

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