Register | Sign In


Understanding through Discussion


EvC Forum active members: 65 (9164 total)
4 online now:
Newest Member: ChatGPT
Post Volume: Total: 916,912 Year: 4,169/9,624 Month: 1,040/974 Week: 367/286 Day: 10/13 Hour: 1/1


Thread  Details

Email This Thread
Newer Topic | Older Topic
  
Author Topic:   Grasse a great biologist/zoologist??? and a knock for salty
Mister Pamboli
Member (Idle past 7607 days)
Posts: 634
From: Washington, USA
Joined: 12-10-2001


Message 4 of 79 (38619)
05-01-2003 1:33 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by derwood
05-01-2003 11:14 AM


quote:
... such is the influence of "europe's greatest biologist."
This is an outrageous calumny! Professor Davison has never said Grasse was the greatest scientist in Europe. He states his view of Grasse in the following, crystal clear, unambiguous terms ...
quote:
Pierre Grasse, was the greatest French zoologist of his day, just as was his Russian counterpart Leo Berg.
As this is just about the clearest sentence in salty's entire output, I think it's a shame you should misread it.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 1 by derwood, posted 05-01-2003 11:14 AM derwood has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 5 by derwood, posted 05-01-2003 2:11 PM Mister Pamboli has not replied

Mister Pamboli
Member (Idle past 7607 days)
Posts: 634
From: Washington, USA
Joined: 12-10-2001


Message 43 of 79 (39271)
05-07-2003 5:05 PM
Reply to: Message 42 by John A. Davison
05-07-2003 3:21 PM


quote:
He was functionally illiterate of all the biology progress of his day and he never even accepted the cell theory which had been in place since 1838.
Perhaps, like salty, Darwin just ignored great chunks of the literature, didn't keep up on recent publications, and just went with what seemed obvious to him.
One enormous difference, however. He tirelessly designed, meticulously conducted, and promulgated the results of experiments to test his hypothesis. That makes him a scientist - of whatever calibre - while salty's semi-meiotic hypothesis remains an armchair theory which even it's author apparently didn't think worth his energy devising, conducting or publishing experimental support for.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 42 by John A. Davison, posted 05-07-2003 3:21 PM John A. Davison has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 44 by John A. Davison, posted 05-07-2003 5:11 PM Mister Pamboli has replied

Mister Pamboli
Member (Idle past 7607 days)
Posts: 634
From: Washington, USA
Joined: 12-10-2001


Message 48 of 79 (39319)
05-07-2003 11:54 PM
Reply to: Message 44 by John A. Davison
05-07-2003 5:11 PM


Salty's armchair
quote:
As for my experiments you don't know diddly squat so quit pretending that you do.
I know you haven't published any experiments in your papers since the semi-meiotic hypothesis first appeared in print.
I know you claim it is eminently testable.
I know you claim it has not been tested.
I know you claim you cannot test it now because you do not have access to a laboratory for research.
I know you continued in your employment as a professor in a life sciences department at a reasonably well-equipped university for a fair number of years after the semi-meiotic hypothesis first appeared in print.
I think I have enough information. Either you're a liar (which I doubt), or you have dishonestly published by not including relevant positive or negative results (which I doubt), or you have not conducted a course of experimental research. Whtaever way you cut it - your hypothesis is totally without any experimental support and your publications and comments give no indication that you have ever bothered to design or conduct such experiments.
You can huff and puff all you want, but your own published work is sufficient testimony. It's the La-z-boy deluxe of armchair theories.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 44 by John A. Davison, posted 05-07-2003 5:11 PM John A. Davison has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 50 by Mammuthus, posted 05-08-2003 6:34 AM Mister Pamboli has not replied
 Message 55 by John A. Davison, posted 05-08-2003 10:43 AM Mister Pamboli has replied
 Message 61 by derwood, posted 05-08-2003 1:40 PM Mister Pamboli has not replied

Mister Pamboli
Member (Idle past 7607 days)
Posts: 634
From: Washington, USA
Joined: 12-10-2001


Message 57 of 79 (39390)
05-08-2003 11:23 AM
Reply to: Message 55 by John A. Davison
05-08-2003 10:43 AM


Re: Salty's armchair
quote:
I am very much impressed with your clairvoyance.
No clarivoyance - just reading your papers and what you have written about yourself. Am I wrong? Have you or others conducted experiments designed to test semi-meiosis - in the Beltsville turkey, perhaps?
If so, what were the results? If not, why not?

This message is a reply to:
 Message 55 by John A. Davison, posted 05-08-2003 10:43 AM John A. Davison has not replied

Mister Pamboli
Member (Idle past 7607 days)
Posts: 634
From: Washington, USA
Joined: 12-10-2001


Message 66 of 79 (39438)
05-08-2003 5:45 PM
Reply to: Message 64 by John A. Davison
05-08-2003 5:23 PM


wasted years
quote:
The semi-meiotic hypothesis, which is at least testable, has only been around for 19 years.
So what have you been doing for 19 years? Sitting in your armchair?
You might have an iota of credibility if you had done some testing and published the results rather than trawling through Bartlett's Familar Quotations.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 64 by John A. Davison, posted 05-08-2003 5:23 PM John A. Davison has not replied

Newer Topic | Older Topic
Jump to:


Copyright 2001-2023 by EvC Forum, All Rights Reserved

™ Version 4.2
Innovative software from Qwixotic © 2024