But it takes so long to evolve

Ps. With your logic, according to you - Hitler is in heaven because you say he was a "christian". That means you must also believe he was saved and resides in paradise. who are you to judge the salvation of a man? if he was saved then he could be forgiven, no? god keeps his promises while man keeps grudges. if not, no biggie. do you know the names in the book?perhaps he was a christian before (assuming one can't lose salvation) or maybe he had a later repentance. or perhaps he wasn't a christian at all.

But should really, really, really bad deeds keep you out, no matter what? I don't care much for a God who says "just drop my name at the door, and they'll let you by." What's the point of the afterlife if it isn't about people getting their just desserts? i guess that depends on what you think a really really bad deed is. according to the bible, no sin is worse than any other. it is only humans (arguably, in a selfish attempt to imagine oneself as more righteous than another) who gradiate sin. is being responsible for the murder of an entire race worse than lying to your spouse? i don't think so. and besides. there are plenty of races that were entirely (or almost so) wiped out in north america that no one even pays any attention to. for one, the mandans. those that were left were absorbed into other tribes. why? because they had blue eyes and might be confused as being human.then you have the really not-so-bad things. like lying. what if your little lie causes something big and bad and nasty... say you're 'spending the evening' with your significant compatriot and and you lie so your parents won't be angry all over you. but you turn out to be that person's only alibi and he unjustly goes to prison (or worse) for something he didn't do, but you're still afraid that your parents will be mad at you. what then? yes it's a touch (excessively) farfetched, but you get the idea.the only just thing is to assume that all bad things are equally bad and that the only thing that can save someone is a single specified method. there is either light or absence of light. there is no middle. a shadow is touched by ambient light. thus it is in the light.

naturally not.

the point isn't that they are equal, really. the point is that they are both bad. that is all that matters. is killing people bad? yes. is lying bad? yes. they are both bad. therefore they both deserve punishment. according to the fundies there is only one punishement.i'm really playing devil's advocate here because my personal opinions are somewhat divergent from this (though i think lying to someone you love is about the worst thing ever... if you haven't got honesty, what have you got? it was a bad example. sorry.) but then, as i figured i broke from my lurking way too soon and got yelled at for being 'a stupid n00b'. whichever.

n00b=noob=newb=newbie.i never argued that hitler demonstrated christian values. it's more a statement (as i said) of how bad is merely bad.i dunno. i made that post in the midst of procrastinating homework and not sleeping. i'm not altogether sure of what i was thinking. i need more sleep.