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Author Topic:   Your reason for accepting evolution
iceage 
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Message 37 of 111 (432299)
11-05-2007 3:36 AM
Reply to: Message 35 by Beretta
11-05-2007 3:12 AM


Dishonest Debate Tactics
bluescat writes:
Basically I accept evolution because evolution over 3.8 billion years makes much more sense that a 6 day creation, 6000 years ago
Baretta writes:
You accept it most likely for the same reason so many do -it's standard fare, global belief system since God apparently died and is no longer relevant.
Standard creationist dishonest debate technique.
No where in the above statement by Bluecat did he imply that "God apparently died". You are assuming a position well beyond what was stated. Maybe his God is whole lot bigger than yours and he doesn't have to constrain God to a timespan that humans can understand.
Baretta writes:
Man has become so much cleverer than his creator it is no wonder his active imagination has invented an entire new story to replace HIS story.
Again no where does Bluecat indicate that Man is cleverer than his creator.
Trying being honest and fair in you discussions.
Beretta writes:
It all happened before we were around but we nonetheless know better.
Yes the evidence is there if you look. Evidently your world view requires man to be front and center. Perhaps this quote by Richard Francis Burton might be appropriate here:
quote:
The more I study religions the more I am convinced that man never worshipped anything but himself.
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iceage 
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Message 42 of 111 (432307)
11-05-2007 4:16 AM
Reply to: Message 40 by Beretta
11-05-2007 3:59 AM


Re: evidence and assertions
Beretta writes:
Still I think we should have mutated eyes in the back of our heads -it makes more sense for survival.So many things would do better if they had more eyes.
You seem to be saying that evolution is false because it has not "mutated" features that would be very useful. Actually the fact that we do not have such wonderous features is more of an arguement against creation.
Evolution is very constrained by the past and the physical constraints of structures that require development over very small steps. If you look and compare humans to many animals you will realize that we are tetrapods. While an extra pair of arms and hands would be really useful, it has not happened because primates are constrained to the tetrapod design. Such a dramatic alteration would be too far a leap for evolution. If we were 'created' than nothing would be too far a leap and we would most likely not share so many attributes of other animals.
Ever look at a primates hands and notice the remarkable similarity? If man is made in Gods image than Chimps are over 90% in Gods image. God evidently blessed Chimps.
Beretta writes:
I am here to learn -that is the main thing apart from dispensing wisdom...of course.
Well lets hope you are here to learn. Before wisdom can be dispensed it has to be acquired. Perhaps you should stay in the biblical forums and not venture outside what you know.
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