peer reviewed paper: WTC downed via demolitions

Therefore the hijackers all died. So where is the problem?

there is doubt as to whethter there were even people on the planes.

Brad Ok if they lied why were 10 of the nineteen not found alive?

Sure. And maybe there never was a WTC. Perhaps it was all a clever mirage.With the sort of gullibility we are seeing in this thread, it is no wonder the phishing is a growth industry.

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Ok if they lied why were 10 of the nineteen not found alive?
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Finally, someone willing to get into an intelligent discourse instead of putting his fingers in his ears going "LALALALALALALA"That said...I don't know. My problem is the lie itself, not the quantity of the lie. The people who came forward and said "Hey, that's my name and my picture!" Were never detained by the CIA or anyone else. That tells me they're not actually suspects. I don't know what to make of this. I said these questions need answers, that wasn't a "I wan't the government to tell me what I already believe I know." It needs to be answered because it points to shoddy investigation on the part of the FBI.If they didn't lie, why are 9 still alive?Now, I am not retarded, as some people seem to be implying. I'm not saying they hijacked the planes and lived through it as Jar and NWR seem to think. I am saying they were not hijackers, but it appears to me as though their name/picture was on file and pulled out of a hat as to who is responsible. I think we can agree that people have come forwared who were accused of being the hijackers, they obviously were not. So who was? Was it just the ten who were not found alive? This is what needs an answer.

I thought this was a fairly simple concept.I'm not saying anyone who died is walking around.I'm saying not everyone who was accused of being a hijacker was. Because some of them turned up alive. There was no answer given by anyone as to why this is the case.

Brad But that is the very problem Brad. There is a huge difference between an error of intelligence gathering and a deliberate falsification of the data.That the FBI makes errors is no more a mystery than any error you might make based on incomplete information.

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But that is the very problem Brad. There is a huge difference between an error of intelligence gathering and a deliberate falsification of the data.That the FBI makes errors is no more a mystery than any error you might make based on incomplete information.
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And all they would have had to do is release a statement saying "oops, we had thought it was these people, they're still alive, however, based on this information we now think _______________________" No one did this. To this day, if you look up who hijacked the planes, the exact same people are still listed. I would accept a simple error if a correction to that error was later made. I can't find anything implying that there was.

Who is epoch9 and why is he following you?

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Aslan is not a Tame Lion

He saw me on at work, he works in the same building as myself. I told him if he has something to say, I'll read it. I thought there might be more, but I guess that was all.

No, of course it's simple. But you have to understand - people like Jar and NWR, they don't want to know if the government knowingly perpetrated, or allowed to be perpetrated, an attack that rocked the nation and killed thousands.They simply don't want to know. Ignorance is easier for them to bear. So, naturally, they shoot the messenger rather than hear the message.

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they shoot the messenger rather than hear the message
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Oh thank God, someone who sees that my questions are not being addressed. I have been lurking here for three years, and had always thought that most of the community was fairly level headed and open to investigating work.In this case the burden of proof is on those trying to tell us Al-Quaida did this, because there is no connection. Never has been, and I don't think ever will.Did you watch the video crash?What did you think?

Hey, I have absolutely nothing against continued investigation of what happened on 9-11. But the points you raised are simply silly. They have absolutely nothing to do with what happened on 9-11. They were just what seem to be really dumb questions.If you want things to criticize out there, well, there are lots of things to look into. Like why anyone was surprised? There had been prior attempts on both the WTC and on flying a plane into large structures. There had even been a best selling book that used that as a plot device.There is lots of room for criticism in both what led up to 9-11 and in what has been done since then. The stuff in the loose change video though elicit no more than a yawn when compared to the other questions.

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I'm still here...I just felt that both sides were expressing exactly what I would be saying...I'm not a huge fan of redundancy so I'm sitting this one out for the most part.(like Brad, I've lurked here off and on for a few years, decided to post today.)

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There is lots of room for criticism in both what led up to 9-11 and in what has been done since then. The stuff in the loose change video though elicit no more than a yawn when compared to the other questions.
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what are the questions that you want to see asked?