Register | Sign In


Understanding through Discussion


EvC Forum active members: 65 (9164 total)
4 online now:
Newest Member: ChatGPT
Post Volume: Total: 916,909 Year: 4,166/9,624 Month: 1,037/974 Week: 364/286 Day: 7/13 Hour: 0/2


Thread  Details

Email This Thread
Newer Topic | Older Topic
  
Author Topic:   An Astrology Discussion
nator
Member (Idle past 2199 days)
Posts: 12961
From: Ann Arbor
Joined: 12-09-2001


Message 13 of 32 (369958)
12-15-2006 3:55 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by New Cat's Eye
12-15-2006 1:02 PM


quote:
So I was reading about astrology and the zodiac signs and was surprised at how accurately each sign described the personalities of my family and friend that I knew the birthday's of.
That's almost certainly confirmation bias at work.
When I ask people who know me who also believe in Astrology to guess my sign, they are never, ever correct. Not even close.
The trick to avoid bias is to read the descriptions without knowing what sign they are for, and THEN try to match them up with people without knowing the people's birth months.
quote:
It seems to me that the time of year that you are born in has some affect on how you turn out. What do you think?..any affect at all?
Highly unlikely.
quote:
Now, I do not think this necessitates that something paranormal is going on. Astrology attributes it to extraterrestrial activity, you know, planets n’stuff. That seems paranormal to me. How could something extraterrestrial affect your personality? Because of its gravity?
No idea.
quote:
I think it is caused by something terrestrial. Maybe how your age cycle lines up with the seasonal cycle, or something like that. If the beginning of each of your new age years fall in the winter, you might turn out different than if they fell in the summer. To me, it seems like that could affect someone’s personality.
How?
quote:
Assuming that the time of year that you are born in has some affect on how you turn out, what do you think causes it? Is there any scientific explanation we could come up with that could explain the phenomenon? Or is the scientific view that there is no affect at all?
Here's a good science-based essay on astrology

This message is a reply to:
 Message 1 by New Cat's Eye, posted 12-15-2006 1:02 PM New Cat's Eye has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 15 by New Cat's Eye, posted 12-15-2006 4:14 PM nator has replied

  
nator
Member (Idle past 2199 days)
Posts: 12961
From: Ann Arbor
Joined: 12-09-2001


Message 14 of 32 (369959)
12-15-2006 3:59 PM
Reply to: Message 12 by dwise1
12-15-2006 3:48 PM


quote:
There are at least 10 components to a personality, as represented by the ten planets
So what happens now that Pluto isn't a planet anymore?

This message is a reply to:
 Message 12 by dwise1, posted 12-15-2006 3:48 PM dwise1 has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 24 by dwise1, posted 12-16-2006 12:30 AM nator has not replied

  
nator
Member (Idle past 2199 days)
Posts: 12961
From: Ann Arbor
Joined: 12-09-2001


Message 16 of 32 (369971)
12-15-2006 4:22 PM
Reply to: Message 15 by New Cat's Eye
12-15-2006 4:14 PM


quote:
So what would you say if I could predict people's signs by matching descriptions of the signs to the person's personality?
Well, if it was just you able to do it, it doesn't mean anything.
If 200 people could do it more accurately than chance would predict, then that would be interesting.
And, let's not forget that you said that the descriptions weren't 100% accurate.
Well, how inaccurate were they? I mean, I think that almost everybody can exhibit many, many personality traits.
And we'd have to get quite specific and quantifiable with the descriptions for them to mean much, as well.
And, what about people in different stages of life, before or after therapy, or even brain injury?
I mean, I have a much different personality in many ways now than when I was 18.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 15 by New Cat's Eye, posted 12-15-2006 4:14 PM New Cat's Eye has replied

Replies to this message:
 Message 19 by New Cat's Eye, posted 12-15-2006 4:58 PM nator has replied

  
nator
Member (Idle past 2199 days)
Posts: 12961
From: Ann Arbor
Joined: 12-09-2001


Message 20 of 32 (369989)
12-15-2006 5:04 PM
Reply to: Message 19 by New Cat's Eye
12-15-2006 4:58 PM


Well, if it was just you able to do it, it doesn't mean anything.
quote:
It wouldn't be me, it would be the descriptions I was reading from.
But it's people who have to decide how the descriptions of the personality traits manifest in the people they supposedly know, and also decide if they are accurate or not.

This message is a reply to:
 Message 19 by New Cat's Eye, posted 12-15-2006 4:58 PM New Cat's Eye has not replied

  
Newer Topic | Older Topic
Jump to:


Copyright 2001-2023 by EvC Forum, All Rights Reserved

™ Version 4.2
Innovative software from Qwixotic © 2024