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truthlover
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Message 24 of 234 (44722)
06-30-2003 6:09 PM
Reply to: Message 23 by MrHambre
06-30-2003 2:39 PM


As a self-described religious person, I'd like to throw in my 2 cents.
It's a lot easier to misuse a gun than say, a garbage can or a can opener. It's easier to misuse a sharp kitchen knife than it is to misuse a spoon.
Misusing religion may be the responsibility of the person(s) who is/are misusing it, but religion has a tendency towards equipping/encouraging its adherents to misuse it. It promotes a "there's a certain truth and I know it" attitude that leads to intolerance and prejudice and leads a person to justify all his/her more negative desires, such as vengeance and dominance.
I do not think this means there is no truth or that truth cannot be known or that all religion is bad. There are temptations inherent in owning a gun. The owner must not only avoid murder, he must avoid carelessness. It is not only the driver who purposely runs down a pedestrian who is guilty, but a drunk driver who accidentally runs down a pedestrian is just as guilty (or at least almost), because of carelessness.
The person who takes up religion had better know what he's getting into, because while it may encourage some morality, it is a powerful temptation to immorality, hypocrisy, and cruelty as well.

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truthlover
Member (Idle past 4090 days)
Posts: 1548
From: Selmer, TN
Joined: 02-12-2003


Message 28 of 234 (44762)
07-01-2003 9:24 AM
Reply to: Message 26 by contracycle
07-01-2003 4:56 AM


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Is it not therefore all the more worrying that mosdt theists are indoctrinated as children, rather than being people who "take up religion" knowingly and with forethought?
My children are as indoctrinated on the dangers of religion as they are on the benefits of it.
The reason I had so much problems with our other conversation is because you made continual assumptions about me, my kids, and my community based on your idea of what belief in God means. You also assumed that my opposition to rock and roll meant all sorts of other things (including being against dancing and music in general) that were not accurate, and nothing I said made you back off at all. I was just a "theist," exactly like every other theist, and everything you said was about "these theists," and how they act and what they believe.
I don't need you to agree with me or like the way I live, but it seemed silly for me to continue a conversation with someone who had a blanket condemnation for a section of humanity that includes the majority of humans, without any indication that he found one different than any other.

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truthlover
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Posts: 1548
From: Selmer, TN
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Message 31 of 234 (44801)
07-01-2003 11:40 PM
Reply to: Message 29 by IrishRockhound
07-01-2003 10:03 AM


Sorry, Rockhound. He brought it up, and I thought if I tried that one comment on this thread, it wouldn't have to bring up the issues of the other thread, and he might consider what I said.
I wouldn't have continued it here. I had to try once. Sorry.

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