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Author Topic:   The continuation of art styles through a speculated flood
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Message 7 of 141 (140011)
09-04-2004 10:51 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by lfen
09-04-2004 10:43 PM


Re: problems galoreous
Looks alot like some of Reg Butler's work. IIRC I saw one similar at the Hirshhorn.
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Message 9 of 141 (140020)
09-04-2004 11:36 PM
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09-04-2004 11:05 PM


Re: problems galoreous
It's like a lot of Henry Moore's work as well.

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And Henry Moore's Green Family
and Reg Butler's Manipulator
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Message 37 of 141 (140714)
09-07-2004 4:53 PM
Reply to: Message 36 by Robert Byers
09-07-2004 4:38 PM


The dating of the art is wrong and indeed un verifable.
And your supporting evidence for that assertion is?

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Message 39 of 141 (140722)
09-07-2004 5:19 PM
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09-07-2004 6:55 AM


Re: Jomon
Some more references on the Jomon era in Japan can be found at Jomon period in Japan. Since there is a pretty much continuous recordd there from as early as 13,000 BC on it is a definite problem for anyone trying to support a world wide flood. Of all people, you would expect those living on an island to notice that their island disappeared and all people were wiped out. Yet there is a continuity of style straight through until around 300 BC.

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Message 57 of 141 (141096)
09-08-2004 9:33 PM
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09-07-2004 8:00 PM


None of these have anything to do with the topic.
To try to get back towards the topic, how do you explain art styles like those of the Jomon or those of the Cyclades? If everyone died except the folk on the ark, first they would have to reproduce. I assume it took at least 9 month just like today. In addition they would have to increase in number and travel to Japan, in the case of Jomon.
Once these folk got to Japan, many generations after the flood, why would they pick up an art stle that would have been dead for all those generations? Why do we not see any break in the style, any change, any influence from their experience of the flood?
Why is this pattern repeated all over the world, in the Greek Isles, Japan, China, India, Egypt?

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Message 78 of 141 (141492)
09-11-2004 1:44 AM
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09-10-2004 2:25 PM


So I ask once again.
None of these have anything to do with the topic.
To try to get back towards the topic, how do you explain art styles like those of the Jomon or those of the Cyclades? If everyone died except the folk on the ark, first they would have to reproduce. I assume it took at least 9 month just like today. In addition they would have to increase in number and travel to Japan, in the case of Jomon.
Once these folk got to Japan, many generations after the flood, why would they pick up an art stle that would have been dead for all those generations? Why do we not see any break in the style, any change, any influence from their experience of the flood?
Why is this pattern repeated all over the world, in the Greek Isles, Japan, China, India, Egypt?

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Message 84 of 141 (141620)
09-11-2004 4:49 PM
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09-11-2004 1:25 PM


Re: So I ask once again.
Please answer the question.
Are you asking me what I think the explanation of "Why is this pattern repeated all over the world, in the Greek Isles, Japan, China, India, Egypt?"
If so, I can answer fairly simply. There was never a world-wide flood, at least not in the last 500,000 years or so.

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Message 87 of 141 (141657)
09-11-2004 8:01 PM
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09-11-2004 7:58 PM


And what does all that have to do with this thread?

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Message 88 of 141 (141658)
09-11-2004 8:02 PM
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09-11-2004 8:00 PM


See previous message. LOL

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Message 98 of 141 (141763)
09-12-2004 1:55 PM
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09-07-2004 7:21 PM


Re: Both parties
Current Archeology is one of the leading archeology magazines from Great Britian. Here is a link to some of their information on the Jomon Pottery. They claim radiocarbon dating was used and that the earliest examples date to around 14,000 BC. This would mean that a basic style remained in practice from at least 10,000 years or more before the earliest dates for the Great Flood and at least 1000 years after the latest dates.

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Message 112 of 141 (142236)
09-13-2004 10:42 PM
Reply to: Message 111 by joshua221
09-13-2004 10:21 PM


But I am still unsure about the time, I mean your figure cannot be precise (exact) can it?
It doesn't have to be precise. The Jomon pottery style lasted from about 14,000BC right up to around 300 BC.

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