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Evidence for and against Flood theories

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jar

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Message 21 of 112 (167867)
12-13-2004 9:15 PM

Reply to: Message 20 by TheLiteralist
12-13-2004 9:03 PM

Please take your time

but remember, there really are amazing resources here in the form of knowledge and input from both theologically based and atheistic based members.

Feel free to ask any questions that come up but remember, the tighter, more limited you can word the question the more likely you'll get answers that stick on target.

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Message 34 of 112 (169831)
12-19-2004 1:18 AM

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12-19-2004 1:09 AM

Re: Regressive - Transgressive

Also, the Flood would have had at least FOUR different main phases:
1) the initiation events (supernatural)
2) the rising waters (very violent)
3) the time when the waters are neither rising nor receding (no calmer than an ocean floor, but likely much underwater cataclysms due to the earth adjusting to first two events)
4) the receding waters (very violent)

But you never returned to our discussion of just that subject or really thought through what evidence each of those events would have left.

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Message 36 of 112 (169835)
12-19-2004 1:39 AM

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12-19-2004 1:34 AM

Re: Regressive - Transgressive

It would take a while so let's put it off until another day if you want. But I beleive if you will step through the stages you have outlined you will find they do not correspond to any of the evidence out there.

One quick question though, have you ever personally been down into a major canyon like the GC or seen some of the other structures like the Petrified Forest, El Capitan and such?

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Message 39 of 112 (169874)
12-19-2004 10:17 AM

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12-19-2004 1:57 AM

Re: Regressive - Transgressive

Fine. One of the problems here and at other boards is the sheer volume of posts that require answers that seem to grow as you type.

I think it's a very important part of understanding why most of us discount the likelyhood or even possibility of a recent world-wide flood. To keep it focused, why don't you spin those factors off into a new PNT. If you want to keep it from growing too much, we can even arrange to set it up in Great Debates although for this I'd say it would be more a Great Discussion. That way it could be limited and kept focused to make it easier for you to respond without dozens of folk pulling you in every direction.

Just let me know what you'd like to do.

Thank you sir.

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Message 48 of 112 (170144)
12-20-2004 2:39 PM

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12-20-2004 11:12 AM

Re: Regressive - Transgressive

That sounds like a good plan but I'm in the middle of a discussion with Buz at the moment. Can it wait until Buz and I finish? That will also give you some time to catch up on any other threads.

And I hope it will be more of a discussion than a debate. I like the let's reason together approach.

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Message 91 of 112 (176219)
01-12-2005 10:52 AM

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01-12-2005 5:17 AM

Re: Some more flood questions

Okay...so most animals and humans (assuming the humans could somehow know the danger) escaped the initial tsunamis.

Tell that to nearly 200,000 people in the South Pacific.

Why do we not find human (or other such creatures) mixed in with the shells?

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