Emotions and Consciousness Seperate from the Brain ??

Read this site first.Now. All of the that sounds pretty good eh? But, I have a question. This guy claims that emotions are not linked to the actual stucture of the human brain. Basically the conscious(mind) and the brain are seperate. Well, I think ANY neuroscientist, or even a biology teacher would agree with my when I say that is just plain wrong. For instance, if I just happened to peform some surgury on you while you were sleeping and I scooped a little here, and a little there out of your skull. You would wake up a totally different person, if you woke up at all, I'm sure I would be a good surgeon I just haven't been taught were to dig. For those of you that are Canadian... Have you ever seen those "A Part of our Heritage" commercials where the doctor pokes the girl's brain while she's awake and she says "doctor I smell burnt toast!" There's a prime example there that what we experience is limited to the structural confines of the brain. If you take hormones for example, your feelings will definitely start changing, look at teenagers!!So, the notion that emotions and consciousness are separate from the brain is just retarded.I know my assertions are very general, but I think this subject doesn't need a lot of detail on my side of the arguement because it should be common knowledge. Nevertheless, I want to know what you all think.-Mission

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I don't care what the truth is as long as it's the truth.

Hi Bencip19, and thanks for your response.

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Also, what do you mean "emotion" ? Are you talking about the conscious experience of emotion, or the behavioral responses?

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Basically I think I'm concerning myself with the conscious experience of emotion. The act of being consciously aware of anger against someone or something, love, or trust, etc. Which would happen before the behavioral response(s).

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Every materialistic attempt to explain the existence of consciousness implies that what suffers, loves, desires, feels etc. in us are objects such as electrons or electromagnetic fields. The point is that objects can feel nothing at all; objects cannot feel happiness, sadness, love, anger,self-awareness, etc.

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Here, I think, is one flaw in this man's arguement. He is assuming that the structure of the brain itself cannot be attributed to "higher" conscious emotions. Principly because objects do not feel. Is it just me or does everyone see the leap he made?

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To ascribe to the electrons in our brain the property to generate consciousness, and not to ascribe the same property to the electrons moving in a bulb, is in contradiction with one of the fundamental principle of physics, the Pauli Exclusion Principle, which establishes that all electrons are equal and indistinguishable, that is they have all exactly the same properties.

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Correct me if I'm wrong, by all means. I think he has confused the basic fundamentals of human thought. The synapses, the little gullys inbetween two neurons (axon connecting to dendrite) from which many different kinds of neurotransmitters flow, is the very beginnings, or links in the chain if you will, of human thought and/or action. It's not the tiny electric current that flows to stimulate the synapse, nor is it even the synapse that creates action or thought, but it is the product of many specific synapses (created by electrical currents) that ultimatly make glands salivate, emotional feelings, and works of art and science.I just woke up and those are the two quotes (also the first ones) that stood out to me the most. Let me know if I'm on track with you now or if you need some more examples....Remember, my arugement, and the fundamental purpose for this thread is my belief that emotions and consciousness are NOT separate from the workings of the brain. In direct opposition to what this man with a Ph.D in solid state physics says. -MissionP.S: Where can I find "Principles of Neuroscience"? Is it online? Or do I need to get off my butt and go to the library?

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I don't care what the truth is as long as it's the truth.

Hey Ben,I dont have access to a computer anymore, but don't forget about this thread. I'll try to post whenever I can.Thanks.
-Mission