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NosyNed
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Message 42 of 127 (171878)
12-28-2004 12:20 PM
Reply to: Message 41 by dshortt
12-28-2004 12:09 PM


Worldviews
For some scientists this may be true, but for many, it is exactly what is sought. SETI seeks to establish the "ultimate truth" that we are not alone in the universe and should consider ourselves thereby less "special". The hunt for life in our solar system takes on the same flavor for many. The search for the mechanism that brought life into existance is a search for an "ultimate truth", as is the attempts to theorize a mechanism that could have brought a universe out of nothing. And don't let the rhetoric of some scientists disuade you; origins is everything in terms of worldviews.
Aren't you bringing "ultimate truth" down to the rather mundane? If we find native bacteria on Mars why is that not simply another (and not completely surprising anymore) fact about the natural world?
You are imposing your way of thinking on others. I'm rather sure that researchers are not doing it to shore up their world view. I am very curious about the discoveries of science just because I like learning and knowing not because it has a lot do to with my world view.
But that is just the point: we can't model reality currently (as NosyNed and other scientists and scientific types will admit) simply based on the natural. This thread is only one evidence of that. So how long do we wait for science to come through on it's promissory notes? I would prefer to follow the more logical course.
You have read something into what I have said that I hadn't intended. My personal belief (and without evidence it is a belief or at least an extrapolation form what evidence we have) is that the reality is simply natural. This is a personal view. Many scientists have a different personal view.
I gave examples of areas that can't currently be examined by the methods of science. If you think that there is something to reality that needs to be handled by some other methods please describe the method and the results.
But at least let's stick to worldviews in which it is logically possible to even postulate an ultimate truth!
Please describe this world view. If you think it is that of a particular religion then you have to deal with multiple, conflicting "ultimate" truths. The track record of this kind of thing has been rather poor.

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