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Author Topic:   Emotions and Consciousness Seperate from the Brain ??
Wounded King
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Message 7 of 127 (170643)
12-22-2004 4:09 AM
Reply to: Message 6 by Syamsu
12-21-2004 11:57 PM


Its that man again
I think it can be safely assumed that consciousness, and emotions, can only exist, at a point of decision.
Why?
TTFN,
WK

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Wounded King
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Message 9 of 127 (170667)
12-22-2004 5:48 AM
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12-22-2004 5:47 AM


Re: Its that man again
That doesn't answer the question, it just reiterates your contention. Why should you be insulted by posts doubting free will?
TTFN,
WK

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Wounded King
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Message 11 of 127 (170674)
12-22-2004 6:51 AM
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12-22-2004 6:47 AM


Re: Its that man again
A Because that is manifest in all our common knowledge about it.
Sadly Syamsu, this seems to be about the extent of your ability to argue, and since it effectively means 'its obvious', you are singularly failing to add anything in the way of argumentation to the debate.
I certainly would disagree that it is obvious that consciousness only exists in the pont of decision. I feel my consciousness to be continuous but I do not feel that I am consciously making decisions all the time
TTFN,
WK

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Wounded King
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Message 17 of 127 (171059)
12-23-2004 2:14 AM
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12-23-2004 12:34 AM


Re: Constructive vs. Destructive Thinking
Much of what we say would become gibberish...
Too late!!!
TTFN,
WK

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Wounded King
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Message 20 of 127 (171085)
12-23-2004 5:32 AM
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12-23-2004 5:18 AM


Re: Constructive vs. Destructive Thinking
I think it is very oppressive, elitist, that common knowledge does not get the respect it deserves. And why?
Why is it that whatever you personally happen to think is 'common knowledge'? You have yet to provide any evidence that the opinions that you hold are in any way actually widely held. This is especially relevant when you are discussing ridiculously abstruse points.
TTFN,
WK

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Wounded King
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Message 24 of 127 (171095)
12-23-2004 7:48 AM
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12-23-2004 6:43 AM


Re: Constructive vs. Destructive Thinking
So wait a minute, you are saying that consciousness is not essentially related to decision in mainstream common language
That is exactly what I am saying if you claim that a rock bouncing or the outcome of a battle are the result of decision. A person making the decision to choose one particular item from a menu is clearly making a conscious decision, the fact that there are decisions which are not conscious pretty clearly undercuts your argument. That fact that conscious decisions exist does not mean that all decisions have to be conscious. This is the same sort of lazy thinking as when you claimed that because neutral selection could be considered a part of natural selection it meant that neutral selection was all there was to natural selection. Its about the same level of logic as 'All dogs have four legs, my cat has four legs, therefore my cat is a dog.'
TTFN,
WK

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