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portmaster1000
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Message 1 of 35 (142706)
09-16-2004 11:21 AM


I'm not sure where this topic should go - perhaps Dates and Dating, The Bible: Accuracy and Inerrancy or even Miscellaneous.
Rrhain's post on art styles made me think of another question.
Are there any remnants of a Biblical Pre Flood culture? If so:
How are they identified?
How are they dated?
Where have they been discovered?
What kind of condition are they in?
Do they support the idea of man's total depravity at that time?
Curiously
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Message 6 of 35 (143319)
09-20-2004 10:59 AM
Reply to: Message 5 by contracycle
09-17-2004 8:26 AM


Thanks for the info
Good information, thanx contracycle.
Anyone have anymore?
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portmaster1000
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Message 7 of 35 (145099)
09-27-2004 3:12 PM
Reply to: Message 6 by portmaster1000
09-20-2004 10:59 AM


No Flood Archaeologists out there?
Oh well...
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portmaster1000
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Message 9 of 35 (145331)
09-28-2004 10:24 AM
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09-27-2004 3:38 PM


Pontificate Away!
At the least, maybe your opinions will get some discussion started.
thanx
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portmaster1000
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Message 10 of 35 (157428)
11-08-2004 8:11 PM
Reply to: Message 9 by portmaster1000
09-28-2004 10:24 AM


All I can find...
Relics of Noah's Flood
For all my googling, I can only find this article in various different forms. Seems the Black Sea is the only place where possible signs of a Pre Biblical Flood culture exists. With such wide spread devastation I would expect more evidence to exist. I am missing something?
Oh and where can I find a good map of what the world looked like before the Flood? I'm still googling the Nuzi Tablet and it definitely looks interesting.
thanx
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portmaster1000
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Message 13 of 35 (157743)
11-09-2004 6:48 PM
Reply to: Message 12 by cmanteuf
11-09-2004 2:24 AM


Re: Flood Dating
Great Post Chris!
When I first proposed the thread I was hoping to get info about what evidence we have left of any preflood civilizations. If they were evil and corrupt enough to wipe out surely their artifacts would give clues into that decay. Alas not much has been posted and I've not found much surfing the web.
Where are all the sites devoted to complete and utter evil?
Where are all the devices of a society who spent every waking hour dreaming up new ways to go against God?
Am I off base to think that something must have been survived?
Forever Wondering
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portmaster1000
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Message 14 of 35 (157748)
11-09-2004 7:03 PM
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11-08-2004 8:38 PM


Re: All I can find...
Cool site Jar.
Did you get a chance to look over some of the other maps on that site?
Thanx for link
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portmaster1000
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Message 21 of 35 (181399)
01-28-2005 3:19 PM
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01-28-2005 4:31 AM


Re: All I can find...
simple writes:
Any maps from before God had to intervene, would be useless.
Useless in what way? I would think any surviving maps would be of invaluable historical importance. They "may" have been useless as maps to any flood survivors but now the maps would be priceless.
simple writes:
He doesn't mess around.
I can only guess at your meaning, so here goes... God intervention left all land features on the entire planet largely changed.
What about mountains? Surely they would have remained in the same place. Ararat must have (and been largely identifiable). Using mountain ranges as references, couldn't some maps still be used until new ones were created?
thanx
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portmaster1000
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Message 22 of 35 (181401)
01-28-2005 3:24 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by Terry48420
01-27-2005 11:26 PM


Re: Flood Dating
Terry48420 writes:
The israelites did not think the surrounding cultures were evil...God did.
This quote leads me directly back to my original question. What pre-flood artifacts show these "God repulsing" evil cultures?
If the earth was full of wicked folks surely they left some of their "trash" behind.
thanx
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portmaster1000
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Message 34 of 35 (181939)
01-30-2005 9:46 PM
Reply to: Message 24 by simple
01-29-2005 3:02 AM


Mountain cultures
simple writes:
You know, they actually have on old map, they say helped Columbus.
When presented with such a sentence, I always have to ask who "they" are...
simple writes:
Mountains? Coul;d be. I think Walt Brown, of the hydroplate theory has it that there was a lot of uplift at the time. So, pre flood, if he's right, the mountains would have been a lot smaller.
How much smaller? Please give an equilvant sized mountain range existing today.
If smaller mountains are the norm preflood then it's likely that there are people living on these smaller mountains. Wouldn't mountains be a fine place to find preflood artifacts?
simple writes:
Ararat may be our mt Ararat, though some say it was an older name for some forgotten mountain or range in the vicinity.
Just as I ask you who "they" are, I must ask you who "some" is...
simple writes:
One of the Moon astronauts, as I hear it found God, and actually died trying to climb it!
Why was he so convinced? Did he know something? I can't say.
You do know that you've disqualified you're entire statement with the words, "as I hear it", don't you? I can easily respond:
As I hear it, this unnamed moon astronaut actually made it to the peak and found the ark itself. He didn't die, however. God took him straight into heaven.
simple writes:
I sure believe in the ark, and the flood, though.
I would consider the ark a definite preflood artifact and a remarkable find.
Can I ask you to elaborate on how the flood totally eradicated evidence of the preflood culture, maps included?
thanx
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