Pre Flood Artifacts?

Contracycle, you mention that we need to pick a date for the Flood.Rrhain posted a great Biblical Chronology that connects the Flood with the construction of the First Temple: http://EvC Forum: The continuation of art styles through a speculated flood -->EvC Forum: The continuation of art styles through a speculated floodIt is 1277 years between the two events, according to a literal interpretion of the Bible.So if we could just connect the construction of the First Temple with a verifiable date then we'd be set and have a date to pin down and work with. He cites the Catholic Encyclopedia, which is a perfectly valid source, but not one likely to impress many of the people who disagree with him about the validity of the flood.So what can we use to date the construction of the First Temple?I have a suggestion. I have not read it anywhere else, which leads me to think that maybe there is something I am missing. Perhaps it has been discussed here before, and I just couldn't find it. If that is the case is there a pointer somewhere? Am I missing something?The Bible tells us that David and Solomon often teamed up with a King Hiram of Tyre.2 Samuel 5 vs. 11: And Hiram king of Tyre sent messengers to David, and cedar trees, and carpenters, and masons: and they built David an house. (KJV)1 Chronicles 14: vs. 1 Now Hiram king of Tyre sent messengers to David, and timber of cedars, with masons and carpenters, to build him an house. (KJV)1 Kings 9 vs 11: Hiram the king of Tyre had furnished Solomon with cedar trees and fir trees, and with gold, according to all his desire,) that then king Solomon gave Hiram twenty cities in the land of Galilee. (KJV)1 Kings 9 vs. 26-7: And king Solomon made a navy of ships in Eziongeber, which [is] beside Eloth, on the shore of the Red sea, in the land of Edom. And Hiram sent in the navy his servants, shipmen that had knowledge of the sea, with the servants of Solomon. (KJV) (That fleet then sails for Ophir. From context it would appear that the Tyrian fleet showed the Hebrew fleet the way.)From this it follows that King Hiram of Tyre and King David and King Solomon must have been contemporaries. Now it just so happens that we do know the dates of some of the Kings of Tyre. According to a couple of sites easily findable via Google ([1] as an example), King Hiram I ruled Tyre from 969-936 BCE. King Hiram II ruled Tyre from 739-730. King Hiram III ruled Tyre sometime after 640 BCE (he was the 4th King to rule after that year). (Unfortunately, you see, my copy of _The Phoenicians and The West_ by Aubet is at my parents house, so I can't get an authortative cite until the weekend, but those are dates based on several chronicles, I do believe. If anyone is interested I can look them up in that source to see if she says more about how those dates were determined and to confirm the Googled cites.)So which king is it? King Hiram III probably ruled at about the same time that Ezekiel was writing or during the Captivity. Hiram II was a rough contemporary of Jeroboam II. So that pretty much means that Hiram I must be the Hiram referenced as being a friend of David and Solomon. This also fits the length of ruling, David and Solomon both had seemingly strong relations with Hiram, which would be difficult to square with the nine year rule of Hiram II (approximately 20 years pass between the 2 Samuel/1 Chronicles reference and the 1 Kings reference to Hiram).Therefore, from the evidence in the Bible plus the general agreement of historians of Phoenicia, the Noachian Flood would have to be around 2300 BC, +/- 10 years or so (because of Hiram's 30 years length of rule plus the roughly 20 year gap between Samuel and Kings). To dispute that is to disagree with either the plain words of the Bible or the generally agreed upon historical facts.Thus, any culture that shows continuity across that time period would be an argument against the Flood, and any region whose artifacts showed a sudden, strong Hebraic influence at about that time period would be an argument for the Flood.Are there *any* regions which meet the latter description? I am unaware of any, but I am not the most widely read of men. I suppose that is what the OP was asking about.[1]: Tyre - WikipediaChris Manteuffel

James Irwin, Lunar Module Pilot on Apollo 15, and the 8th man to walk on the moon, did not die on an Ark trip. He died of a heart attack in Glenwood Springs, CO, August 8th, 1991. He was 61.Glenwood Springs was where the organization he had founed, High Flight, was headquartered. They had run several (I think 2 but I don't remember exactly) expeditions to find the Ark.Johnson Space Center Home | NASAChris