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arachnophilia
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Message 31 of 125 (237825)
08-27-2005 7:45 PM


scientists?
found ann gauger, phd uw.
quote:
Ann Gauger, a homeschool mom with a PhD in zoology, and experience teaching high school and college students will again be offering high school biology from her home in Kent. (South King County) A chemistry course will also be offered. The format for Chemistry has not yet been established. Class size will be limited to between 5 and 10 students. Reference letters from last year's families are available on request.
Last year's biology course covered natural history, botany, zoology, physiology, and cell and molecular biology, with field trips and labs included. The course included a discussion of evolution and intelligent design from a Christian perspective. She received her Bachelor's degree from MIT in 1975 and her PhD. from the University of Washington in 1989. After a postdoctoral fellowship at Harvard and the birth of her children, she began her second career as a Mom in 1992. She has taught her own children at home since 1997.
To find out about courses for the next school year, E-mail.
http://www.geocities.com/teenhomeschooling/moreinfo.html
these are so-called scientists?
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Message 32 of 125 (237828)
08-27-2005 7:59 PM
Reply to: Message 17 by CK
08-27-2005 6:03 PM


Re: List names (plain text)
Ineresting info on Philip Skell
Page not found · GitHub Pages

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Message 33 of 125 (237833)
08-27-2005 8:19 PM


Is an excercise physiologist a scientist
and qualified to make a scientific judgement on evolution and ID?

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arachnophilia
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Message 34 of 125 (237834)
08-27-2005 8:21 PM
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08-27-2005 7:59 PM


Re: List names (plain text)
yeah, they really seem to be taking whoever they can get.

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CK
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Message 35 of 125 (237835)
08-27-2005 8:23 PM
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08-27-2005 8:19 PM


Re: Is an excercise physiologist a scientist
Clearly I think we need to get an idea of their current involvement in science and if the titles given by the DI are correct.
(This is the other reason that the excel would be handy - we can colour-code the sciences and also generate graphs and the like).
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Message 36 of 125 (237861)
08-27-2005 9:24 PM
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08-27-2005 7:30 PM


Re: one we won't be able to contact
there were supposed to be asterisk on the ones known to be dead by DI
Charles? do you still have that or did you clean those off the list?
I have some ideas on questions too. I like the idea of a science project. One of the questions would have to be endorsing the same statement (we don't need to say that we know they are on the list) to see what the current response is. One would also have to be a blatant endorsement of ID and one a complete rejection of ID.

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by our ability to understand
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Message 37 of 125 (237872)
08-27-2005 10:36 PM
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08-27-2005 6:45 PM


Re: university of georgia
you can also parse the names and sort by last names, by institutions, etc.
5 steves ... heh. multiply the ~600 steve list by 80 ....

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Message 38 of 125 (237886)
08-28-2005 2:34 AM
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08-27-2005 7:30 PM


Re: one we won't be able to contact
//http://www.///cgi-bin/dm.cgi?action=msg&f=25&t=1178&m=1
through late Wednesday evening not around here sorry wont
be here
Here you make sense of it, that's the best way to go Sorry to be a pain in the ass but I won't be around this Forum I am going to be out all day and throughout until late Wednesday evening Can you "do something" with this. Proposed New Topics I don't have time to think through or ever begin to rewrite this. I ask you to bring the it up (only because of two reasons) that I would ever expect you to even consider this. I ask only because I will simply let the topic alone You have an interests in "fundementals" and you can naturally shape-up my rambling remarks at such an issue as Early and Modern Man
See: Look and take a close gaze at the time:
*arachnophilia, Charles Knight, DBlevins, DrJones*, Faith

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Message 39 of 125 (237894)
08-28-2005 2:54 AM
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08-27-2005 9:24 PM


Re: one we won't be able to contact
Well I looked last night and I couldn't actually see any in the actual text (and they should have lifted with the rest of text anyway) - I take a more detailed look later - after I get back from breakfast.

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arachnophilia
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Message 40 of 125 (237906)
08-28-2005 3:49 AM
Reply to: Message 36 by RAZD
08-27-2005 9:24 PM


Re: one we won't be able to contact
there were supposed to be asterisk on the ones known to be dead by DI
honestly, the way this is going so far, i'd rather independently confirm their deaths.
i mean, so far we have homeschool-moms and excercise specialists being listed as scientists, just because they have a ph.d. in something.
One of the questions would have to be endorsing the same statement (we don't need to say that we know they are on the list) to see what the current response is.
well, this is a tough question. because we also need to make sure we've found the right people. if they're not the right people, we'd have to discard the results.
One would also have to be a blatant endorsement of ID and one a complete rejection of ID.
well, i'm thinking that we'll try to cover all of the bases: god, religion, evolution, creationism, id, school, etc. so basically there will be the option of selecting things like theistic evolution (what davidson seemed to be for) as well as a complete rejection of either side. but we'll hash this out a little later...

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Message 41 of 125 (237907)
08-28-2005 3:51 AM
Reply to: Message 38 by Godfearingatheist
08-28-2005 2:34 AM


STOP SPAMMING.
your topic got rejected for the pnt. this is not the place for it.
please, we are trying to keep this fairly straight forward. this thread is JUST for collecting the emails of people on this list.

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CK
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Message 42 of 125 (237927)
08-28-2005 6:34 AM


MASTER LIST 08/28/05
Green = Possible email found
Yellow = No email
Purple = Passed away
(Excel format - let me know if this a problem for anyone).
This message has been edited by Charles Knight, 28-Aug-2005 06:35 AM
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Message 43 of 125 (237931)
08-28-2005 7:26 AM
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08-28-2005 6:34 AM


Re: MASTER LIST 08/28/05
bookmarked.
no gates?

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Sylas
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Message 44 of 125 (237940)
08-28-2005 8:52 AM


I'm concerned this may not be a good idea...
I'm really dubious about this whole thread.
I don't like the idea of targetting people who sign a petition we disagree with. I'm concerned that this will appear as a kind of witchhunt. I'm not saying it is a witchhunt; but I think it will be easy to make it appear that way. It may come across as a confirmation that this is about peer pressure and intolerance of dissent.
The strength of the conventional model is that it is NOT based on stiffling dissent, but on following the data and evidence.
It is certainly true that scientists are going to have to get smart about explaining their material and their position. The Steve list, for example, was great. Trying to root out dissent in the petition is probably a bad idea, that will not win over many of the folks we need to be reaching.
Just a thought -- Sylas

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Message 45 of 125 (237944)
08-28-2005 9:47 AM
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08-28-2005 8:52 AM


Re: I'm concerned this may not be a good idea...
For what it's worth, I agree with Sylas.

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