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Author Topic:   Another Test for Intelligent Design Proponents
joshua221 
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Message 86 of 151 (277052)
01-08-2006 2:02 AM
Reply to: Message 85 by crashfrog
01-08-2006 1:26 AM


Re: b=b==b=bb=b
Show me statistics that show that the majority of scientists are not living well, and actually have to time to think about DNA extractions. I would bet you that the majority of scientists like what they do, and sacrifice nothing to earn a large income to study physis.
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joshua221 
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Message 92 of 151 (277144)
01-08-2006 12:24 PM
Reply to: Message 88 by Parasomnium
01-08-2006 5:03 AM


Re: My final comment to Prophex on this
quote:
In any case, to conclude our exchange, the important thing is not that we disagree about whether or not there is an Intelligent Designer, but that I pointed out to you the fact that you and the intelligent design movement are in disagreement, apparently, on what can be said openly about the nature of the intelligent designer.
You are welcome to comment, but I will leave it at this.
Agreed.

"The old man cries in the sorrow of eternity." Van Gogh

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joshua221 
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Message 93 of 151 (277147)
01-08-2006 12:27 PM
Reply to: Message 89 by nator
01-08-2006 8:46 AM


Re: b=b==b=bb=b
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Spoken like a kid who is still in high school and has never had to work for a living, or even work very hard academically.
Take it from me, the wife of a very bright man who just defended his PhD.
There are many, many sacrifices.
Profound, painful ones that you are not grown up enough to understand, apparently.
Oh, and what do you consider a "large income"?
We live in America, these sacrifices are those of the rich man, pains that when looked upon by those who have experienced much worse, are small and insignificant.

"The old man cries in the sorrow of eternity." Van Gogh

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joshua221 
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Message 95 of 151 (277154)
01-08-2006 12:37 PM
Reply to: Message 90 by Ben!
01-08-2006 11:39 AM


Re: b=b==b=bb=b
lol

"The old man cries in the sorrow of eternity." Van Gogh

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joshua221 
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Message 96 of 151 (277158)
01-08-2006 12:40 PM


Fact is, as much as there is room to complain about money, it's a heck of a lot better than most of the world's population.
Also, when I said physics, I meant to say physis. Which is greek for the physical world. To clear that up with percy, and stuff.

"The old man cries in the sorrow of eternity." Van Gogh

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joshua221 
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Message 100 of 151 (277322)
01-08-2006 8:49 PM
Reply to: Message 98 by nator
01-08-2006 4:45 PM


Re: b=b==b=bb=b
I wasn't the one complaining was I?
Or pretending to have hardships that are unable to be handled?
So your funny remarks had no basis.

"The old man cries in the sorrow of eternity." Van Gogh

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joshua221 
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Message 102 of 151 (277383)
01-09-2006 12:29 AM
Reply to: Message 101 by nator
01-08-2006 9:46 PM


Re: b=b==b=bb=b
You aren't seeing it on a worldly scale.
What you say is difficult, really is nothing. I pointed out this semi-ignorance in your thinking, and I recieved personal criticisms.
quote:
But you are the one insulting the life of a scientist from a place of utter ignorance.
Ignorance is the inability to see truth. This is you right now.
Saying that to be a scientist is hard, and takes sacrifice is ignorance, and a dishonor to anyone who has ever starved, or had to work harder, without anything in return. Which I assure you there is more than in the science community.
I'm sorry, but I can see past your world of experience in college, and "real-world" science and academia. I see poverty, and humanity as a whole, you are not seeing that, well not that you aren't capable of seeing that, but that your lifestyle when criticised sort of hinders your ability to see what life really is, for most of the world's population. I may be young, but I know that in this instance, you are the ignorant one, and not I.
We sort of made a big deal out of it, wanted the last word.

"The old man cries in the sorrow of eternity." Van Gogh

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joshua221 
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Message 103 of 151 (277385)
01-09-2006 12:30 AM
Reply to: Message 101 by nator
01-08-2006 9:46 PM


Re: b=b==b=bb=b
Leave your preconcieved, and concieved notions at the door.

"The old man cries in the sorrow of eternity." Van Gogh

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joshua221 
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Message 109 of 151 (277951)
01-11-2006 12:12 AM


I'm sorry, but the point wasn't about me at all, or my high school, it was about rich people pretending to have struggle and strife in a world of plenty. Rich can be subjective but in this case, your entire argument lacks a basis because there ARE those who work harder and recieve less. Although I am in the same boat as those of you who have said such things, I know that pretending to have a hard life in a real world of exploitation, and have - nots, is ludacris.
So to crash and schraf, remember the rest of the world, and be grateful, you seem to be annoyed about me and my lifestyle, but I am the one who acknowledges these things, and does not pretend to have what is called a hard life, one with great "sacrifice". Give me a break.
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of that kit kat bar

"The old man cries in the sorrow of eternity." Van Gogh

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