Another Test for Intelligent Design Proponents

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Show me statistics that show that the majority of scientists are not living well, and actually have to time to think about DNA extractions.

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Well, they are paid to think about these kinds of things, so of course they "have time" to do so.Would you criticize a welder for "having time to think about welding"?

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I would bet you that the majority of scientists like what they do, and sacrifice nothing to earn a large income to study physics.

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Spoken like a kid who is still in high school and has never had to work for a living, or even work very hard academically.Take it from me, the wife of a very bright man who just defended his PhD.There are many, many sacrifices.Profound, painful ones that you are not grown up enough to understand, apparently.Oh, and what do you consider a "large income"?

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We live in America, these sacrifices are those of the rich man, pains that when looked upon by those who have experienced much worse, are small and insignificant.

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...writes the American kid who owns a computer (that his parents probably paid for), musical instruments (that his parents probably paid for), and is considering a college degree (that his parents will likely pay for) in Philosophy.Do you look good in green, because you'll probably want to get fitted for your Starbucks uniform now.It'll save you the trouble after graduation with that Philosophy degree.This message has been edited by schrafinator, 01-08-2006 04:47 PM

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You really have no idea what it's like to work in the sciences, do you? The only thing worse is being married to someone working in the sciences.

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Amen, brother.

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I wasn't the one complaining was I?

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Or pretending to have hardships that are unable to be handled?

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So your funny remarks had no basis.

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But you are the one insulting the life of a scientist from a place of utter ignorance.You are the one saying that scientists don't work hard yet earn large incomes.Hey, if you get a PhD in Philosophy and become an academic, do I get to criticize you for doing nothing of real value and getting rich?

So, Prophex, since you see so much truth, and have clearly had to work very hard for everything you have, can you tell us what it's like to be so deep?I mean, how many hours did you work digging ditches or mining coal to pay for your computer, or for your musical instruments?What great sacrifices have you had to make, what poverty have you endured, that allows you the privilage to sit in your ivory tower and judge everyone else?This message has been edited by schrafinator, 01-09-2006 08:04 AM

I am going to start a new coffee houses thread.I have a question to ask you but I can't do it here.