I shouldn't need to quote short messages which can simply be accessed by following the links back. But in this case it does seem that I acted hastily. I assuemd that when you claimed that I misrepresented the argument you actually meant it. In fact you were not denying that your argument committed the genetic fallacy, instead you insisted that the genetic fallacy was not a fallacy and that in fact the origins did dictate the value we should place on a thing. I am sorry that I did not realise that you would actually contradict yourself in the first two sentences of your response - or that you would respond to the fact that your so-called logical argument relied on a recognised logical fallacy by actually insisting that all the logicians were wrong. I think that is sufficient to indicate just who is "in denial".
Nevertheless it is a fact that you have not even attempted to produce a formal logical argument, your accusations of misrepresentation remain completely unsubstantiated and you have not even addressed all the critiques. It is also a fact that you have effectively admitted that your argument is logically invalid.
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You really want me to go find everywhere the evos at EvC have called Christians arrogant for suggesting that human beings are superior to animals?
Only if you can hsow that it is relevant. Do you want to actually consider the fact that anyone who said such a thing might be basing their opinion on more than the theory of evolution ?
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Are you arguing with Nietzsche that Darwinism brought about the Death of God and the whole existentialist/nihilist attempt to cope with that?
If Nietsche said that the acceptance of Darwinain evolution was in itself logically sufficent to "kill" the idea of God then I would certainly disagree with it. I, however, beleive that Nietsche meant something other than that.
And I have to add that you have no concepetion of what I do and do not care about. And one of the things I care about is logic. And when I see people arrogantly insisting that their opinions are logically proven and everyone who disagrees is trapped in "contradiction" and "denial" I ask those people to back up their claims. And the fact is that your claims were false. You haven't even attempted a proper logical argument in the strict sense of the word. And you would rather throw insults than even attempt to rationally defend your argument.
This message has been edited by PaulK, 01-30-2006 04:32 AM