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Trump won  Suspended Member (Idle past 1268 days) Posts: 1928 Joined: |
An Anthropomorphic God is one that is like us, that kills, thinks, sees, looks. This God is the creation by which human beings envision a deity, a creator that is like themselves. This belief is widely popular with evangelists and most church-goers that I know, this version of God is held within the Bible and in sermons I imagine.
In the book of Genesis it is said that God created man in his image. This can be interpreted various ways and I do not want to direct this topic into what we think this means. I believe that if God exists it cannot be apart of this system. We are but creatures that exist and we must eat, we must sleep, and to an extent we need to be part of a routine to buy food and to have shelter to sleep in. But God perplexes me. I oft sat and questioned "Why this". I imagined the need for men to be of different cultures, traditions and territory. These men they hurt and kill eachother in the name of ethnocentrism or patriotism, what have you. I asked God why this? What is the point of this?It was then that I realized there is no reason. God cannot be held within reason or logic, God cannot be defined by man. For this is my argument against an anthropomorphic God, for when one questions existence, purpose and the various properties of existence one realizes that one cannot logically reason it. God cannot be held within the parameters of human logic, for all we know is that it exists and nothing more. I have been musing over this subject for the last 2 years. I recently held a discussion with my archaeology professor(Phd from Columbia) in class that came about soon after asking about the moral atheist. I was not attempting to indict her but ask her of her beliefs for she is a moral atheist. She agreed outright with my assertions that I am presenting here, she could offer nothing but praise: "this young man reads books". The impossiblity for an anthropomorphic God was easy to see for us, I raised this discussion in the middle of class mind you and my the majority of the other students had no idea what we were talking about. She had to assure them that it was related to our studies of the day. I have coined it "God doesn't". In a poem written long ago(no longer have it) outlying this concept that an anthropomorphic God cannot possibly exist.As in God doesn't hear, God doesn't see, God isn't good, God cannot be reasoned or boxed in, It simply cannot be described, God doesn't exist. I have reasoned this because we are but humans and our minds are limited, the mobility of our minds are limited. We are essentially damned to think in human terms and likeness. We cannot be anything greater than what we inherently are. I have always said that all we can know for sure (if one believes in a deity) is that It exists. The realization that we are but humans, a limited species can often be disheartening to say the least.(But have you heard the term "ignorance is bliss"? Dylan once said that "if you're not depressed you don't have anything to say.") To discuss if this view is valid or invalid this is my purpose here. I believe it is invalid, as I've said God cannot be articulated by man, God cannot be described. This thread is NOT to discuss my personal religious beliefs or to criticize my belief in Christianity. I have already stated why I love and respect the Bible, it is a beautiful composition of men frustrated, reasoning their God, finding their God, it is a deep struggle of the mind and then a story of a man that preached Altruism.I care not to generalize or summarize anymore. Promoted by AdminJar
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Trump won  Suspended Member (Idle past 1268 days) Posts: 1928 Joined: |
To address "the contradiction": the belief in the existence of a God must be taken as a given. This obviously does not apply to atheists.
quote: I was addressing common adjectives attributed to God. My only resignation is that God is. Moses's inquiry into the name of Christ was replied with "I Am".
quote: Exactly. If after reading this reply one is still bothered by my words then one is still taking them in the strictest literal sense which is not how they were intended to be taken.
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Trump won  Suspended Member (Idle past 1268 days) Posts: 1928 Joined: |
I read your reply a few times and I finally caught hold of what idea you were expressing.
You are saying that the existence of God cannot be taken with a grain of salt either because "existence" is human. I did state in my "God doesn't" list that God doesn't exist but I go on to claim that God does exist. I then said to you that this must be taken as a given for Believers which is not reasoned, whiched supports my claim that God cannot be reasoned. There is no word to describe God, the closest one is that It "exists". This is unsatisfactory I know, but that is not my fault.
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Trump won  Suspended Member (Idle past 1268 days) Posts: 1928 Joined: |
I enjoyed reading your post.
PS: I didn't learn that word in college, I learned it here from someone I'd say 2 or 3 years ago or so. Edited by -messenjah of one, : 2 or 3
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Trump won  Suspended Member (Idle past 1268 days) Posts: 1928 Joined: |
I understand,
I'm glad I finally caught wind of what you were trying to say. Excellent contribution.
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Trump won  Suspended Member (Idle past 1268 days) Posts: 1928 Joined: |
See there lies the problem Nemesis. To continue with the example made in the OP:
There is no valid explanation for the absurdity that is war. There is no
nemesis_juggernaut writes:
If God does exist I'm sure it will be one of those, "Oh, so that's why its like!" type of things when its all explained to us.
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Trump won  Suspended Member (Idle past 1268 days) Posts: 1928 Joined: |
I am merely stating that there are no logical reasons for this creation.
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Trump won  Suspended Member (Idle past 1268 days) Posts: 1928 Joined: |
You are not cutting to the heart of it.
Why would a God create a reality such as this? There is no reason to this question.
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Trump won  Suspended Member (Idle past 1268 days) Posts: 1928 Joined: |
Don't listen to Dylan after his crash. I never meant it to be something noone has thought of before, it is simply a good topic. I must leave to play a show and I'm very tired.
Edited by -messenjah of one, : sentence structure
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Trump won  Suspended Member (Idle past 1268 days) Posts: 1928 Joined: |
As I have already said, I was not attempting to create something revolutionary here. People here require the very basics of education, for instance: You write in your post that God "eats" and God "tells" etc. Those statements cannot be written by a "critical mind", I suggest reading. I simply thought it would be a good topic. I know my topics are held to a higher if not meaningless scrutiny because of their quality (comma splice here and there) but you must remember my posts are not novels.
quote: Statements like this incite a general hopelessness in me. I hope you can realize eventually that you exist. I will defer from responding to your posts unless you have something brilliant to share. If you do reply I will bear with your words and give you the courtesy of reading it. Another minor suggestion would be that you stop signing your name with a period at the end, for obvious reasons.
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